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6th September 2020, 01:00 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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How to check if diamond plate is flat?
I flatten my waterstones with a 400 grit Atoma diamond plate used only for that purpose. This plate consists of a 10mm thick aluminium backing plate with a thin sheet of diamonds which glues to the base.
I accidentally left the Atoma out in the sun for a week, and I am worried about warping or cupping of the 10mm plate.
Can anyone please advise how I check if this diamond plate is dead flat on the diamond surface?regards,
Dengy
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6th September 2020, 02:38 PM #2China
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A straight edge would be fine for that level of accuracy.
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6th September 2020, 02:39 PM #3
Same way you would check a bit of wood. Square or steel ruler should be good enough. Another check is does it wobble on a flat surface. If the metal base is one solid piece I dont think the sun would have distorted it.
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John
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7th September 2020, 10:24 AM #4Senior Member
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A bit over the top but you could try two 150 mm or similar steel rulers and use them as winging sticks
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7th September 2020, 11:12 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Your diamond plate is steel backed. As steel and aluminium are good conductors of heat and it wouldn't change shape when you leave it in the sun. Put it on a plate of glass to verify it if you want. But I wouldn't be too worried.
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7th September 2020, 11:58 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Metals have a "coefficient of expansion." In some data base, I'm sure.
My first thought was Bohdan's method (#7) above.
Modern float glass is nearly optically flat as you can see from undistorted reflections.
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8th September 2020, 01:11 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Many thanks to for all the posts above, some really good stuff in that lot.
This all started when I put my Toledo 300mm ruler as a straight edge on the back of the aluminium plate, and held it up to the light. I could see a sliver of light between the plate and the ruler when checked lengthwise and diagonally. It would appear the ends of the back of the plate were raised slightly. Across the width of the plate it was quite flat.
As recommended above, I tested to see if it was rocking on a granite bench top, but no movement on the corners whatsoever on either face. So no warping detected
I then used my smallest feeler gauge strip (1.5 thou inch) and could not slide that between the ruler and the back of the diamond plate, even though the sliver of light was there if I held it up to the light. Not sure if the ruler is a good straight edge.
Then placed the back of the plate on the granite, and could not slide the feeler strip under it anywhere around the perimeter of the plate. Similar results when I turned the plate over and put the diamond surface on the granite.
Sat the feeler gauge strip on the granite, and placed the plate on top of it. The strip could not slide out. Tried this in several places under the plate, but the plate came with the strip when pulled.
So, I think that if the diamond plate is flat to 0.0015", it should be suitable for flattening my waterstonesregards,
Dengy
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8th September 2020, 01:58 PM #11
Your stone should actually end up flatter than the diamond plate as it is moved over the surface when flattening. I usually put my diamond plate out in the sun to dry off. I use window cleaner as sharpening fluid then rinse off with water. I dont have water stones but have never worried how flat the plate is. My old oil stone does have some dip in it but I still get sharp irons and chisels.
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John
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