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Thread: Diamond paste sharpening
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27th February 2009, 06:09 PM #46SENIOR MEMBER
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I have not started on diamond paste yet. I do have a small cast iron surface plate and some coarser diamond paste, but plan to get some fine paste and only use that. There has been quite a bit of fora traffic flow over the last year about the problem of avoiding contamination by coarser grits as you get finer and finer. Apparently almost impossible to wipe off all the diamond when you finish at a particular grit.
A solution proposed was to use diamond paste only as the last step (microbevel). Another suggestion was to interpose another medium as the penultimate step, say a waterstone, to dislodge any diamonds from the previous stage. More broadly to use diamond paste every second step, finishing up with diamond paste either on a plate or strop.
Then again, I have not actually done it yet. By the way, a good source of silicon carbide (SWMBO was into it) is lapidary suppliers/clubs.
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2nd March 2009, 01:39 AM #47New Member
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Derek, I had caught that posting. Between that and some information cedarslayer posted over on woodnet I decided to pick up some paste to play around with. I am debating on substrates at the moment. I can get mild steel off ebay or mcmaster carr since I am stateside, but I have my doubts about them staying flat for any amount of time. Wood and leather substrates are also up for consideration. I think the finer grits, sub 5u, are going to be a good match for a wood substrate so I don't dub edges or make too much of a mess.
At this point I am heavily into experimenting. Each method has pros/cons. I think I am of a similar mindset to yourself, just looking for the best shortcut in sharpening. One of these days I am going to lay everything out and post my shameful collection of sharpening media
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13th March 2009, 01:18 PM #48New Member
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Anyone try a metal substrate?
Several entries mentioned they were going to try various metal substrates including old saw blades. Have any of you tried it yet?
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18th March 2009, 05:10 PM #49
Derek,
Could you supply some details about your strop?
Where did you get the leather?
Is it glued to MDF and what type of glue?
Do you use Veritas green rouge on it?
Is it hard or supple?
Cheers, Jack"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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19th March 2009, 12:22 AM #50
Jack
It is from Tools for Working Wood ...
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/M...Category_Code=
I used 3M contact glue to attch it to hardwood.
Details of honing are here:
http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Woodwor...mondpaste.html
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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19th March 2009, 12:30 AM #51
Thanks Derek.
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25th March 2009, 09:45 PM #52New Member
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For the guys who have tried this, did you find a metal substrate better than ply? Any one know how well beech would work, its quite cheap at the local hardwood place.
My package of pastes has just arrived from honkers but i'll have to wait till the weekend to try it out.
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7th April 2009, 09:39 PM #53New Member
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We'll i've had a chance to try them and for honing and polishing the cut on the end of my finger where i was wiping the 0.5 paste from the chisel blade seems to suggest it works great, confirmed that by easily cutting the end grain on some pine.
But it never seems to get a (noticeable) wire edge on the back with the 14 micron with my 1k waterstone this appears very quickly especially on the microbevel. Is this normal?
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8th April 2009, 02:50 PM #54
G'day steveo,
Regarding metal substrates, I found an aluminium plate to work very well with the finer grits ( <10 micron) which is all I really use now. The steel that I'd tried seems to do some damage to the edge if you weren't really careful, the aluminium far less so.
As for the wire edge business, my experience suggested that the diamond pastes would break down further as you went, making for a finer grit the longer you honed. Because they can remove material fairly quickly, it's possible you're producing and then removing the wire edge before you've even seen it. Impossible to say with any certainty without seeing your process.
What stone are you using and what medium for the paste? It may also be an imperfect honing medium rounding the edge slightly and removing the wire edge prematurely."Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
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