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22nd February 2010, 08:38 PM #16SENIOR MEMBER
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hi mr brush. instead of waiting for an email to be answered, i called amazon.com on their help line.
they told me i should never have received any type of tools as they only ship these products within the u.s.
i recommend buying what you need now before they change their over seas shipping policies.
i have also found a company called woodcraft.com. they have dmt products also. i am awaiting email confirmation on their international shipping rates.
regards, justin.
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22nd February 2010, 09:03 PM #17
Justin - I found 2 guys in the US selling 10" DuoSharps on eBay; one is the seller that Mark pointed out, and there is one other. Both ship to Australia, albeit for about $30 shipping charge.....
Trouble is, I decided to get BOTH the coarse/extra coarse and the fine/extra fine plates in one hit (since the shipping charge is fairly substantial). Turns out each of the sellers I mentioned has one of the plates I want, but neither has both. I've contacted the guy who has the fine/extra fine plate and he is expecting to have the coarse/extra coarse as well in the next few days. If he has both, plus the base, I'll just get the lot in one shipment.
I came across Woodcraft too, but they were a bit more expensive (though still cheaper than local prices)
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23rd February 2010, 07:35 AM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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hi mr brush.
which ebay bloke has the coarse/extra coarse dmt stone?
i think this is the cheapest way so far.
woodcraft emailed back. 2 stones plus shipping is AU$326.
regards, justin.
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23rd February 2010, 10:50 AM #19
I got mine from Amazon. The key is to find a seller (Amazon is just the advertiser effectively) that ships to AU. I spend a good deal of time finding one and got a pretty good price in the end, but it was too long ago for me to remember who the seller was. From memory is was one of the knife suppliers.
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23rd February 2010, 12:31 PM #20
Justin,
The eBay seller suggested by Mark (in this thread) used to just have the Fine/Extra Fine and the Fine/Coarse 10" plates. I contacted them to ask why they didn't also have the Coarse/Extra Coarse, and they got back to me the next day to say that they could supply it but just hadn't got around to listing it on their eBay site. I got a direct quote from them (settlement by paypal), but I went back to look at eBay this morning and they have now put the Coarse/Extra Coarse plate up as well.
eBay Australia Store ? myknifesourcecom: Search results for.
Total price they have quoted me to supply the two 10" DuoSharps (W250CXNB and W250EFNB) plus the B8250 DuoSharp Base is US$255.89 including shipping. Assuming an exhange rate of 0.89, that's A$287 or so for the whole lot, delivered.
I looked at Woodcraft too, but they were definitely more expensive.
Cheers
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25th February 2010, 04:42 PM #21
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25th February 2010, 06:52 PM #22SENIOR MEMBER
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i am sure they are, but they also charge twice the price of the u.s company!
regards, justin.
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6th March 2010, 12:18 PM #23
Received my DuoSharps on Friday from the US, so that's about one week to get here (rural NSW). I'd certainly recommend the eBay seller (Ozark Cutlery) - good service and delivery.
Now I have the complete set of grits - Coarse/Extra Coarse and Fine/Extra Fine Duosharps, both in 10"x 4"size, plus the DuoSharp base. I've already started using them to flatten the backs of some new chisels, and they even cut A2 steel like butter !
Total cost for the whole shebang, including freight, works out to about A$290 at current exchange rates. Total cost for the same items from Carbatec (their new 2010 catalogue pricing) is A$533.......and it appears that they don't keep the Coarse/Extra Coarse plate.
I think we'll put that down as a success
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6th March 2010, 12:36 PM #24SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi mr brush, can you confirm the ebay sellers id?
i have searched and cannot find ozark cutlery.
cheers, justin.
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6th March 2010, 12:48 PM #25
Its this one:
eBay Australia Store ? myknifesourcecom: Search results for.
Ozark Cutlery is obviously the company name, which is what comes up on PayPal.
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6th March 2010, 05:33 PM #26
Well done Mr Bush. I am sure you will not regret getting the two plates, and at that price, ripper Rita.
That should provide all the options you need to tackle any steel or blade for rapid results.
Let us know what sharpening process you settle on for chisels or blades, from plates to final hone, would be interested to hear what works best for you.
Cheers
Pops
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3rd April 2010, 06:50 PM #27
Well, after a little use, I'm very glad that I got all the diamond plates..........
I've found a use for all of them. The only comment would be that the extra coarse doesn't seem much more agressive than the coarse, but its still great for reshaping primary bevels.
Provided you don't let your microbevel get too big, the fine followed by extra fine diamond are great for maintaining the primary bevel.
Interestingly, I've found that I get great results going from the extra fine diamond on primary bevel, adjust the Veritas jig for a microbevel angle, then just a few strokes on an 8000 waterstone. I used to start the microbevel on 4000 before going to 8000, but that gives distinctly worse results for some reason.
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3rd April 2010, 06:58 PM #28Hewer of wood
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What are you doing to treat the wire edge Mr B?
Cheers, Ern
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3rd April 2010, 07:47 PM #29
The backs of my blades are already polished on the 8000 waterstone.
After forming the microbevel with just 10 strokes or so on the 8000 stone, I then removed the blade from the Veritas jig and gave the back another 4-5 pull strokes on the 8000 waterstone to remove the wire edge. One benefit of using diamond plates on the primary bevel is that it ends up perfectly flat - much flatter than using even a freshy flattened waterstone. Going straight to the 8000 stone seems to give a really uniform fine microbevel with minimal effort.
I was watching some Lie Nielsen videos on YouTube recently, and their demonstrator guy seems to go straight from a 1000 grit waterstone to 8000 with good results. I''ve convinced myself that the really fine waterstones (8000, 12000 grit) work best with pull strokes only......
Take a look at this for example:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj6QvUpDi7c]YouTube - Episode 1: Sharpening the Fishtail and Corner Chisels[/ame]
He seems to like Shapton stones !!
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