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    Default Fat wheels for grinders.

    Just in case the obvious isn't.
    I modified my 8" grinder to take a fat wheel & I took some pics for anybody who may be interested.
    1. normal skinny wheel grinder before attack.
    2. pull the side cover off & undo the retaining bolt & remove the old wheel.
    3. use the cover as a template on a scrap piece of MDF for the outside line.
    4. use a grinding wheel as a template on the scrap piece of MDF for the inside line.
    5. touch up the lines with a thick felt pen remembering to draw on the inside of the outside line & the outside of the inside line. :confused: (Where is Outback when you need him.???? )
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    Default part 2

    the next bit.

    6. cut around the line remembering to stay on the inside of the outside line & the outside of the inside line. :confused: (Outback, I need your help here. )
    7. clamp the cut out spacer to the cover & drill through the holes in the cover to make holes in the spacer.
    8. slam some crude 25mm roofing screws through it with a hex head driver.

    Job done.
    Cliff.
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    Cliff,
    what's next? Mag wheels and wide rubber for the car? Sunraysias and monster mudder tyres for the old grey ghost? You hoon!

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman Mick View Post
    .... You hoon!

    Mick
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    FAT wheels? FAT WHEELS? This obesity thing is getting too much!

    You didn't explain to us - whajawannadothatfor???

    :confused:
    IW

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    Cliff,

    Kewl. I think I'll have a go at that. How you gonna' slow it down? Or not.:confused:
    Cheers,

    Bob



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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    FAT wheels? ....
    You didn't explain to us - whajawannadothatfor??? :confused:
    I use them for turning tools. The Blu-Max is the latest fad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Childress View Post
    ..How you gonna' slow it down? Or not.:confused:
    Not....no need to... the blue wheel is made out of aluminiun oxide, 54 grit with J-bond honeycomb construction, this allows air to pass through the wheel, resulting in the tool being considerably cooler than with a conventional wheel during the grind.

    The white wheel on the other end is aluminium oxide 60 Grit, & before the blue on came along, was considered the best option to sharpen turning tools.

    There is also a pink wheel that is 80 Grit & if I didn't already have the white wheel, I have it on one end & the blue one on the other.
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    Hi Cliff,
    It was the width I was asking about. I sort of intuitively think wider wheels should be better, but have trouble keeping my 25mm wheel as true as I'd like - it seems to get a bit lopsided, no matter how carefully I dress it.

    Been reading about the blue wheels and wondering. Getting a white wheel many years ago was such a revelation, & it's said going blue is another great leap forward.

    Please give us your thoughts once you've given it a good workout.
    Cheers,
    IW

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Hi Cliff,
    It was the width I was asking about. I sort of intuitively think wider wheels should be better, but have trouble keeping my 25mm wheel as true as I'd like - it seems to get a bit lopsided, no matter how carefully I dress it.

    Been reading about the blue wheels and wondering. Getting a white wheel many years ago was such a revelation, & it's said going blue is another great leap forward.

    Please give us your thoughts once you've given it a good workout.
    Cheers,
    Ian, I have the same prob dressing the wide wheels on my grinder.

    I have a single point diamond dresser. I read somewhere that they should give the best wheel surface, but I wonder if the t bar type diamond dressers would be better?


    Cheers...............Sean


    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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    I also have a single point wheel dresser, but I put a jubilee clamp on its shaft such that the tip just touches the deepest "rut" in the wheel and the clamp is behind but touching the guide (which I make sure is perpendicular to the wheel's surface) - then w awhizz or two and a nice flat wheel face is presented...

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    Thanks steve, I have done pretty much the same thing but results are all over the place.


    Cheers...............Sean


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    Hmmm, part of my problem may be that I'm still using an old-fashioned star-wheel dresser. Orright, stop falling about laughing, I'm older than many (most?) of you, and entitled to be a bit of a Luddite.

    So looks like a diamond dresser is wot's the go? Sounds like a good thing to put one on the Chrissy wish-list.......

    Cheers,
    IW

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    I use an old course wheel held flat on the rest & run it across the grinder while it is going to square off the running wheel, the I give it a hit with the star wheel to sharpen it.
    Using a courser wheel to flaten it works fine but it also has the side affect of dulling the grinding points a bit.
    The star wheel smashes the wheel surface to expose new sharp grinding grit.
    Try it, heaps cheaper than a diamond dresser.
    Cliff.
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    Thanks Cliff - sounds like my kind of solution - I've got a cheap coarse stone that will do nicely - I'll give it a whirl.
    Cheers,
    IW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon View Post
    I also have a single point wheel dresser, but I put a jubilee clamp on its shaft such that the tip just touches the deepest "rut" in the wheel and the clamp is behind but touching the guide (which I make sure is perpendicular to the wheel's surface) - then w awhizz or two and a nice flat wheel face is presented...
    Steve,
    I have genuinely read this three times and admit to being envious of the way in which Scooter, Cliff and Ian W all blithely have understood what you said and responded appropriately.:eek:
    Ever been afraid of saying something and making a fool of yourself? That is the way I feel about what you have said.
    I am sure that it is relevant to know what you meant, but unfortunately you have said it in a way that assumes an understanding I do not posess.

    As Pauline Hanson would have said, "PLEASE EXPLAIN?" I do want to understand.
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