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Thread: A 'new' gadget for saw filing
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11th November 2011, 09:05 AM #1
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A 'new' gadget for saw filing
I just got an eBay buy delivered and I am itching to try it out:
Attachment 187410
This little device attaches to the end of the saw file to show you the rake and fleam that you want while you are filing - you keep the long bar level and parallel to the saw plate and the tooth line and you keep the rake and fleam steady.
Here are the instructions:
Attachment 187411
If this works, I reckon that Veritas should make it again.
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Jeremy
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11th November 2011, 09:47 PM #2
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That's a great find. Let us know if it works, and we'll all lobby Veritas.
Cheers, Richard
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11th November 2011, 11:40 PM #3
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Any idea how old it is, I like the old fashioned wooden box
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12th November 2011, 12:36 AM #4
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I have a long rip to make which I've been putting off pending filing my best rip saw, so I should be able to give a report of early impressions soon
As to age, the instruction paper is quite brittle and darkened so I would put it in the early 20th century but I will do more research and let you know.
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12th November 2011, 12:44 AM #5
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Can I send you some blunt saws for practice?
Cliff.
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12th November 2011, 12:56 AM #6
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No need, Cliff. I've got plenty of my own
Some research online shows that Henry Briggs was awarded a US Patent for the device in 1919:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=RwN...tput=html_text
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12th November 2011, 02:17 PM #7
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I recently sharpened my first saw at the TTTG saw sharpening workshop.
It is now cutting beautifully but I am afraid that I may never be able to replicate the success without TTTG supervision.
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12th November 2011, 08:49 PM #8
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Sharpened 3 saws today - 28" 5ppi Tyzack rip, 22" 9ppi S&J xcut, and 14" 12ppi Tyzack tenon (filed xcut). The tool worked very well and made the job appreciably easier, mainly because the file felt easier to keep at the right angles. Best of all, the three saws all cut better now!
I hope someone will pick up the to and re-introduce it to the market. It gives me more confidence in my ability to produce a tolerably sharp saw with minimal effort.
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13th November 2011, 12:00 PM #9
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Would it be difficult to make a similar gadget?
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13th November 2011, 12:53 PM #10
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It's quite easy to make a block with an angled hole in it to help with fleam. The advance of the Briggs device is holding the file at the same rake - with the block device, the file tends to rotate so it doesn't keep the same rake angle. Maybe a grub screw into the file tip would hold it.
Originally Posted by stevemc32
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12th October 2012, 09:42 AM #11
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There are guides "flooding" the market. At least three:
the first is already for sale
Blackburn Tools - The RakeMaker
this one still in concept stage
WoodNet Forums: Rake and fleam guides
this one to be released soon.
http://www.leevalley.com/home/temprl/983a.jpg
http://www.leevalley.com/home/temprl/983b.jpg
No doubt others will pop up!
Plenty of home made versions as well.
Cheers
Peter
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13th October 2012, 07:20 PM #12
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Love the LeeValley with the vernier bit Originally Posted by Heavansabove
... 
... should come with Botox liqueur for steady hands,
plus an adjustable level for sloped gullets
Lets see some photos jmk!
And when you do the rip, please let us know material type, length and time taken
Cheers,
Paul
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