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6th September 2009, 07:25 PM #1
Help identifying stones and advice please
I am finally getting to the point in my woodworking where I need to be able to sharpen with consistent results. But need help identifying stones and advice.
Currently my setup consists of
High speed grinder with 60 and 100 grit aluminium oxide white wheels for turning tools and major work on chisel and plane blades. (I plan to get a kelton or tru grind jig)
2nd high speed grinder with spindles calico mop with green rouge on one (is this appropriate for final burr removal?)
And 3m abrasive polishing pad on the other. (not for sharpening)
Basic honing guide
4 Grades combination diamond plate cheap and not very flat or accurate
Oil stone 2 grit
3 water stones
Two sun tigers ( the one in the green packet is 1000 grit) The blue packet please let me know one and one black colored got from carbatec for $10 on clearance possible very fine.
I have coming a wet wheel slow speed grinder as pictured. I plan to set up a honing guide like the tormek
I have also been thinking about getting the economy grade in 400 and 1000 from carbatec to use as the initial steps in flatening backs and honing and to flatten the water stones. Good or bad plan?
thanks for your comments
Andrew"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"
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6th September 2009, 08:33 PM #2
Stones.
Hi Andrew,
Firstly, there is no mention of what you want to sharpen, other than Turning Tools.
I personally feel that all those stones are a little over the top.
I only use a 6" grinder with a 60grit & 120grit wheels.
I have never found the need to hone, & it takes to long.
Maybe the the Tool Jig is OK, but I have taught myself to sharpen by hand, & I don't know why you would them any sharper, than what I can achieve.
Touch the edges on my Turning Chisels & you will certainly cut yourself.
I mainly use P&N Chisels + a few files, but done the right way, so they don't shatter.
A few of those stones will not go astray, for doing the Carpenters Chisels, Plane & Planer Blades, Saw Tooth Bits, & even Spade Bits,& Router Bits.
The Diamond Encrusted Steel Stones ? are very good, for the ST Bits, Router Bits etc.& every now & again you wash them in warm soapy water.
Hope that helps a little, & you will recieve a lot more advice than I have given you.
Regards,
issatree.
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6th September 2009, 08:37 PM #3
I want to sharpen chisels plane blades etc as well as turning tools I wont be honing the turning tool as many people deem it unnecessary.
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20th October 2009, 08:26 PM #4Hewer of wood
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Can't claim much expertise but I'd say a hard felt or leather wheel would be best for deburring and polishing. Anythings softer would pose a risk of dubbing the edge.
As for turning, there's some good evidence now that the finer the edge on the tool the cleaner the cut - so less sanding is needed, which is a real plus.Cheers, Ern
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30th October 2009, 03:03 AM #5New Member
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Have you tried a belgian stone (coticule) for touch ups? They're a bit faster cutting than japanese polishing stones, faster than the grit would imply (about 4000-5000 for the blue, 6000-8000 for the cream color).
With either one you'll be surprised how fast it will polish the edge to suitable sharpness, a few strokes starts to show. Not inexpensive, but belgian stones last a long time. If you think of them as long term investments, they're somewhat more affordable.
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30th October 2009, 11:49 AM #6
Don't bother with the Carbatec cheap diamond plates, they're not flat and you'll never get them flat. I tried these and eventually gave up and purchased a dual DMT plate instead.
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30th October 2009, 12:16 PM #7Hewer of wood
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Yeah, with the dollar stronger check out US online sources for diamond plates. I'm no fanatic darksider but I have played with cheap diamond stuff (not worth the money) and waterstones for bench tools (too much messing around). V. happy with my dual grit DMT .... can even touch up the metal edges on my skis with it
Cheers, Ern
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30th October 2009, 12:29 PM #8
I have checked them with a straight edge and even returned one that wasn't flat enough. They are flat enough for woodworking purposes. They are the thicker variety that retails for $70 ish each or $114 for both. I want them for the initial flatening of blades and removal of metal fast. Also for truing up water stones etc. They are embeded in a 20 mm piece of plastic and are a lot better than the previous set I had
These ones
Economy Diamond Whetstones (290 x 62mm) : CARBA-TEC
not these
Economy 3 Piece Diamond Sharpening Set : CARBA-TEC
Andrew"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"
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