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    Hey Graeme, no need for guilt. Sandpaper is a good medium tio learn on. It is just an expensive and frustrating system after a time.

    Regards from Perth

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    Thanks Graeme, a very intersting read. I noticed that someone mentioned the wasp sander for sharpening, i have 1 of them but never even thought of using it for the job. I've followed the links to the wasp site with a tute on sharpening with the wasp, might be worth giving it a try.
    The Veritas honeing guide looks very nice, i was looking at them on the carbi-tec web site yesterday - very tempting. I've re-read the article on waterstones & the more i read the more i think i'd like to go that way, just 'feels' right to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Sandpaper is a good medium to learn on. It is just an expensive and frustrating system after a time.
    I can imagine that would be the case very quickly.

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    I solved my requirement for a flat plate of glass by going to the dump and getting a couple of the glass doors from the inside of old cooking ranges.

    It takes a little effort to get all the burnt on fat splatters but they are ground on the edge and tempered (and more particularly - cheep).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    I solved my requirement for a flat plate of glass by going to the dump and getting a couple of the glass doors from the inside of old cooking ranges.

    It takes a little effort to get all the burnt on fat splatters but they are ground on the edge and tempered (and more particularly - cheep).

    Interesting. How thick is the glass, Dragonfly?

    Cheers

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    Default Cooking Range (Oven) Glass

    Graeme,

    The glass thickness varies a little, normally 5 or 6 mm thick. The size varies with the oven type, normally around 450mm x 500mm. It does have a couple of holes down one side though from the hinges, but they are grounds smooth as well.
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    I found a couple of glass doors off a stereo cabnet that was my 18th birthday pressent that i had fogotten about - wow that was alot of years ago. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    Graeme,

    The glass thickness varies a little, normally 5 or 6 mm thick. The size varies with the oven type, normally around 450mm x 500mm. It does have a couple of holes down one side though from the hinges, but they are grounds smooth as well.
    Thanks Dragonfly. Data for future retrieval.

    Cheers

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    Keep in mind that glass flexes. Glue a thick MDF or (flat) tile underneath, and do not make the glass too long unless well supported.

    Regards from Perth

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    Old televisions used to have 3/8" or even 1/2" plate glass in front of the tube. They were good enough for grinding cylinder heads on. The trouble is getting a free one - the Toorak and Prahran yuppies collect those things now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Keep in mind that glass flexes. Glue a thick MDF or (flat) tile underneath, and do not make the glass too long unless well supported.
    I made a lapping plate for lapping plane soles with an MFD base, you may find the MDF expands in wet weather making for a lovely concave surface

    I was furtunate I'd only done about three strokes on a wooden plane before I realised something wasn't right. I wouldn't go this way. Personally I'd get a cheap bag of cement and make a nice little slab instead.
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    worth noting that thewoodworks sell a 'lapping' glass item $16 - ~40cm x 30cm:
    http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/produ...ASS/A1901.html

    I didn't know until I received mine that it comes as 2 sheets laminated to get the thickness (mine was 11mm thick, not the 8mm that was specified - the edges were not rounded or bevelled but rough looking)

    I did see a marble slab for lapping being sold on one of the Aus online stores for a reasonable price but forgot which one. Haven't had any issues with my glass but I'd probably get the marble next time.

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    I'd suggest going longer and narrower than that and pref two sheets. Width half an abrasive sheet. Then you can stick a series of diff grits (on both sides with care) and work through them.

    I agree with Derek; in the end you want to be woodworking so the quicker the sharpening the more you can do. But as noted, it's a good cheap way to learn and if you get hooked then you bite the bullet and get the stones or diamond plates or both, and then a polishing wheel and then etc etc.
    Cheers, Ern

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