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13th July 2005, 09:35 PM #1New Member
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Sharpening for living !
Hi all,this is only my second post and I need help allready.
Looking to start mobile / home based sharpening business.
Would do knives and houshold/sawing scissors to start with and move to hairdressing scissors / shears and clippers as experience and customer base builds up. Having decided on Tormek for knife sharpening I am still searching for appropriate scissors sharpener.
Google mostly returns American sites and a few Aussie offerings,mostly franchise/licensee.
Japanese are famouos for their scissors but Google returns no hits on sharpening machines (language?).
As I understand there are few forum members living in Japan?Please help me locate Japanese links to companies seling scissor sharpeners.High prices are expected especialy when some US and Aussie machines cost up to US$3000.
As an alternative I am considering Veritas MK 2 Power Sharpening System from Lee Walley.This have few good (price,PSA discs) and few bad (110V,no scissor holding bracket) points.If anyone is using this machine please advise your experience.Thank you.
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It is a long shot but if there is a profesional sharpener/woodworker reading this please PM me if possible.Having to many questions and very few answers.
Cheers,DadoLast edited by Dado 2; 13th July 2005 at 11:02 PM.
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13th July 2005, 09:51 PM #2
I think your best market would be pro chefs. Their knives really need to be kept sharp. Thing is, and I don't want to rain on your parade, that this is a market that would be pretty hard to break into I reckon.
Because I think that if I was a chef, I'd probably already have a relationship with a sharpener, or I'd use the guy that the restaurant used.
Ditto for hairdressers and their scissors.
Can you make a living out of just targeting the home market?
I dunno.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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13th July 2005, 10:39 PM #3
I havent done it myself but .... Tormek advise that their unit can sharpen scissors (check the video) so why don't you start with that before risking more capital?
Like Craig, I think you might be up against it to break into a business sharpening tools for people who use them for their livelihood and reputation,
good luck, Fletty
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13th July 2005, 11:26 PM #4
The Tormek can & does sharpen scissors but you ain't gunna get rich doing it.
Today's society of the 'Silly Solleys' mentality makes it cheaper to chuck it out & buy a new one than it is to pay an Ozzie to fix it so I reckon you are pushing sheyet uphill.
Hell, since GST came in & 32% sales tax on TVs was abolished, all the old TV techs have folded up & gone fishing... it's too bloody expensive to have them fixed & pay Oz wages at the price we can buy new ones from China.Cliff.
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13th July 2005, 11:56 PM #5
Dado2,
not trying to put you off here, but it may prove quite hard to get enough work to keep you busy full time. There's 2 mobile sharpeners that I know of that service Cairns/tablelands area (about 100K people). They do knives, scissors, mower blades, chisels, TCT saw blades, router bits etc etc. I know that a few years ago one of them was ringing me up every fortnight trying to get work from me as things were pretty lean for him. Also a mate of mine was working for a mob that sold commercial kitchen gear, everything from knives to ovens and freezers. He brought home a sharpening machine once, had oscillating diamond pads and a pretty foolproof guide system. He said that chefs loved it and even at around $300 they were selling like hot cakes. Also for the domestic market, there's not as many housewifes at home anymore to call on and a lot of knives and scissors are either self sharpening or not worth sharpening.
Having said all that, the tormek appears to be a good all purpose machine and not too big an outlay to test the waters with. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
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14th July 2005, 12:16 AM #6New Member
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Craig,Fletty,Cliff and Mick,
Thank you all for your good luck wishes.
I am not going to leave my full time job as yet.This would be a side job to start with .Only if it takes off it would become primary occupation.Thanks again.
Dado
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14th July 2005, 12:44 AM #7Senior Member
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Good on you, Dado2.
Keep us posted via the website when you are up and running. We are also Brisbane based and may be after your services from time to time.
Cheers
Tom
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14th July 2005, 03:36 AM #8
You still want info in local (for me) scissor things?
You might not like this but...
Dad in law's job was making sporting goods, and they used to sharpen everything themselves, which explains the stupidly dished stones I inhereted. It's a very common thing to see at least one water stone in a house, because everyone sharpens their own stuff for the most part.
I can run a google search for you in the right language, but I really don't know what will turn up, if anything.
I also need a haircut soon, you want me to ask him what he does?
Good luck, might not bare any fruit, but it might just be worth having a crack at anyway.
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14th July 2005, 06:24 AM #9New Member
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Schtoo,
Yes please if it is not to much trouble.
Cheers,Dado
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14th July 2005, 09:11 AM #10
Dunno about you but most chefs that I know(SWMBO is one)would not let a sharpener service anywhere near their set of personaly owned knifes... seen the price of proper chef knifes?
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14th July 2005, 11:16 AM #11
I used to be a chef and you would be amazed how many half blunt knives there are. The only time I had pro sharpening done was in sydney when the sharpener came around and the Executive Chef said it is free just give him your knives. Did a great job. Anyway if you make contact with 4 & 5 star hotels you might be able to go in there and get knives from chefs and sharpen them more or less on the spot. The thing that scares Chefs is the butchers who grind the guts out and burn or blue up the knives. The problem is always letting people know who you are and what you do. There are many many Chefs knives out there that have been sharpened on a steel for years and have got belly near the hilt when they should be curved the other way. There might be market there to grind these back the right way.
The other thing that might work is setting up in a hardware store and sharpening on the spot for people. The store might let you in as a way to attract customers.
StudleyAussie Hardwood Number One
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14th July 2005, 12:10 PM #12
Is there nto a market for a sharpenign consultancy as well? Teaching chefs and or woodworkers how to sharpen properly?
No, sorry, thats a lame ideaCheers,
Adam
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14th July 2005, 12:14 PM #13
A mate of mine is a knife sharpener in Sydney and he uses a emery paper wheel type machine, I haven't seen it but it sounds like a swansdown mop made out of emery paper. He uses it free hand to sharpen. Just sits in the back of his van, pulls up to the loading dock and does his thing.
You will also have to compete with those shops in shopping centres who sell knives and other kitchen stuff, they usually have a sharpeneing service. I was quoted around $6 per knifeIf I do not clearly express what I mean, it is either for the reason that having no conversational powers, I cannot express what I mean, or that having no meaning, I do not mean what I fail to express. Which, to the best of my belief, is not the case.
Mr. Grewgious, The Mystery of Edwin Drood - Charles Dickens
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14th July 2005, 12:22 PM #14
I used to see a guy around Sydney with a grinder fixed to the back of his motorbike. He used to ride around to all the restaurants and cafes and sharpen their knives in the street.
I've got a set of Mondials. The chef's knife is getting a bit of belly near the hilt. I might take to it with a grinder one day myself."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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14th July 2005, 12:57 PM #15Originally Posted by silentC
I'm pretty sure that it wasn't chain driven from the back sprocket. :eek:
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