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  1. #1
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    Default 10" Mitre Saw: Makita LS1040 vs Dewalt DW713-XE vs.....

    I am looking for a new (long overdue) piece of kit for my workshop. A decent 10" compound mitre saw for less than $450.

    - 10" Because I don't want to double up on blades for my tablesaw
    - Don't need slide compound because I have a decent tablesaw for wider cuts.
    - I am in the process of rewiring my workshop so 15A is ok.
    - I just want a machine that will cut precise and stay accurate for the once a month use that it will probably get, and be moderately portable for onsite jobs.

    The reason I am looking now, is because I just destroyed my little GMC saw last night, along with a $50 blade. Before you ask, it was doing alright for me until now, but I never really pushed it this hard. I was cutting Aluminium when is suddenly grabbed the peice and dragged it through the guts of the machine, taking half the teeth along with it. I have concluded that the RPM's was way too low for such a task. I was on my second last cut too. Lucky there was no swear jar in the workshop.

    These are the two I have come up with. What are peoples opinions?

    DW713-XE
    LS1040 - Cutting / Sawing - Power Tools

    I have bought from toolmart before, but I am open to other (cheaper) suppliers
    in Perth, Western Australia.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated...

    Tim

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    I have the makita awesome saw can't fault it and you should get it cheaper than 400 too

    Bunnings has this saw cheaper I believe

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    I have the Dewalt one, but the previous model, which is mostly the same.

    Great saw, very acurate.

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    I've used both and i own the Dewalt saw you've posted there and i prefer it over the makita.

    Either one you buy you will be happy with though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_C View Post
    I am looking for a new (long overdue) piece of kit for my workshop. A decent 10" compound mitre saw for less than $450.

    - 10" Because I don't want to double up on blades for my tablesaw
    - Don't need slide compound because I have a decent tablesaw for wider cuts.
    - I am in the process of rewiring my workshop so 15A is ok.
    - I just want a machine that will cut precise and stay accurate for the once a month use that it will probably get, and be moderately portable for onsite jobs.

    The reason I am looking now, is because I just destroyed my little GMC saw last night, along with a $50 blade. Before you ask, it was doing alright for me until now, but I never really pushed it this hard. I was cutting Aluminium when is suddenly grabbed the peice and dragged it through the guts of the machine, taking half the teeth along with it. I have concluded that the RPM's was way too low for such a task. I was on my second last cut too. Lucky there was no swear jar in the workshop.

    These are the two I have come up with. What are peoples opinions?

    DW713-XE
    LS1040 - Cutting / Sawing - Power Tools

    I have bought from toolmart before, but I am open to other (cheaper) suppliers
    in Perth, Western Australia.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated...

    Tim

    Hi, Tim,


    Makita LS1040 $359 at Bunnings...fair price.

    Cheers

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    Hi, I have had the Makita for 3 years and am very happy with it. I initially bought it when I was making my deck and continue to use it all the time. Still cuts accurately, plenty of grunt.
    The first step towards knowledge is to know that we are ignorant.

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    Hi Tim_C

    My situation seems to be an exact replica of yours (minus the Al saga)... Makita 1040 vs Dewalt713 for all the same reasons.

    I was wondering what you ended up with and do you have any conclusions about your choice.

    Anybody have any views about the Bosch PCM 1800 (about$299) or the Hitachi C10FCE2 (about $339).

    I guess my main concerns are to get consistent, accurate cuts (length and angle), and capacity to adjust the presets if they are not precise out of the box, or go off with use.
    Last edited by Garry G; 10th September 2011 at 08:28 PM. Reason: correct an error

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry G View Post
    Hi Tim_C

    My situation seems to be an exact replica of yours (minus the Al saga)... Makita 1040 vs Dewalt713 for all the same reasons.

    I was wondering what you ended up with and do you have any conclusions about your choice.

    Anybody have any views about the Bosch PCM 1800 (about$299) or the Hitachi C10FCE2 (about $339).

    I guess my main concerns are to get consistent, accurate cuts (length and angle), and capacity to adjust the presets if they are not precise out of the box, or go off with use.
    United Tools have the Hitachi for $349 with a portable stand. You may have to do a Google search for a dealer in your area.

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    Not sure if you have a Bunnings store in your area. I have just purchased a Makita M243 compound saw. 1500W 255mm Makita M243 Compound Mitre Saw - Bunnings Warehouse

    This saw does not appear on the Makita Australia web site, but on the Makita New Zealand web site. It has been on the market for at least three years as there is a post on this forum referring to it. The price I paid was $249. It is probably only imported by Bunnings so they do not need to price match.

    While I have not used it yet, a few comments. After getting it out of the box and looking at the instructions, the instructions tell you what you need to know but are just average. I found the bevel zero stop to be out, but less than half a turn of the adjustment bolt fixed that. The fence appeared to be correctly set. There is a clip on the machine to hold the supplied tool. I do not think this is mentioned in the instructions.

    One of the reasons I bought it was because the kerf plate will be cut by the saw to be the width of the blade. On just about every other compound mitre saw there is a ten millimetre gap for the blade. The supplied 255mm blade has 40 teeth.

    This is just food for thought for you and others contemplating a compound mitre saw.

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    One of the reasons I bought it was because the kerf plate will be cut by the saw to be the width of the blade. On just about every other compound mitre saw there is a ten millimetre gap for the blade. The supplied 255mm blade has 40 teeth.

    This is just food for thought for you and others contemplating a compound mitre saw.[/QUOTE]

    That space is for compound cuts. You will initially make a zero clearance plate till you make your first.......
    Still a very good saw

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    I went to Bunnys yesterday to have a squiz that the various breeds of CMS and had a look at the 243. When you get a chance to make some sawdust with it, let us all know what you think.

    Good point Snapman, thanks - I had wondered about the wide gap in the kerf plate and had been contemplating the need to make zero clearance plate if I decided to buy the Mak LS 1040 or dewalt.

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    How many of you prefer the horizontal handle over the vertical? Personally, I have always felt better using the horizontal as they require less effort for me.

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    Default Makita M243 = Maktec MT230 ?

    Looking at the web I found this Maktec (Makita) 255mm Mitre Saw #MT230
    Looks like the Makita M243 but just a different colour. I bet most dealers could match or better the big green shed price if asked, but the big green shed may not price match as it is not the 'identical' item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry G View Post
    I went to Bunnys yesterday to have a squiz that the various breeds of CMS and had a look at the 243. When you get a chance to make some sawdust with it, let us all know what you think.
    I have written a few comments and posted them in Product Reviews.

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    Thanks Guys

    maybe its just classy photography, but the MT 230 looks a bit different / better detailed than the 243??

    Why do they have two machines in the same price point anyway?

    My local tool man's advice is that the dewalt is prone a few of the little gizmos and add-ons like the plastic knob on the blade guard are prone to breakage, and parts are difficult to get and expensive. he also said the Black and Decker took over dewalt not the other way around ( as indicated in one of the other threads on this subject).

    I'm leaning away from Dewalt on price and this, other reports on price/ availability of parts, absence of a hold down clamp supplied as OE and annoying things like the cheap jack bevel indicator, which would require a shop fix.

    I think the race is between Makita LS 1040 and Hitachi C10 FCE2.

    I'll keep you posted

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