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    Depends on what you're going to use them for and how often?
    I was always a makita man from 23years ago and switched to hitachi a couple of years ago... No complaints.
    Have had Bosch Blue, Metabo, Ryobi, Dewalt (Black & Decker), all very good for their times.
    Last year I donated all my tools to a professional thief lol so......
    I had some time to look around and research, so I bought the full Milwaukee kit.
    They are the best I've used so far!

    Dunno, but when I see brands being sold at the green shed, I tend to steer away from them for continual use, some may not agree but we all have our preferences. Only in emergencies.

    I use mine daily and the 2 most I use are the impact driver and the drill/hammer (no hammer used though) and charge the batteries every second day...constant drilling with hole saws through cabinets and screwing cabinets together, I must say the batteries last a while!

    The other thing is that the makita impact drivers (rattle guns) are very light and without due hand pressure, the tip seems to slip off the screw, not so with the Milwaukee as its heavier and not as much pressure is required for screwing...
    but, it is heavier in the hand and might cause you some fatigue if you're not used to it. (could explain my tennis elbow haha, kidding)

    I've dropped both the drill and driver from a 3m ladder onto concrete and it's as if it never happened.
    The rotary hammer drill is excellent! Compact, sits upright, tough and drills with ease into any type of masonry.
    5 year warranty on tools and 3 years on batteries...you can't go wrong.

    Well that's my 0.2c or 20c (with today's CPI) worth

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    Tezza, use for me is basically when I get a few days gap between work and other commitments it has to be ready to go.

    Projects in the near future are wood over steel frame gates (tek screws), a number of hardwood sleeper garden beds, some outdoor play equipment and a wooden extension to the concrete tiled patio. There is always lots of plywood/pine cabinets and frames to make while I keep adding to the workshop too. I have two other hammer drills (sds and knuckle) but I am still looking at the hammer models. I don't want to have to grab the 240v models to knock in a couple of wall plugs. Extra weight for convenience is fine by me.

    Basically on the day I need to make a start and keep moving. Realistically any of the beefier namebrands should stand up to it and I don't see myself missing that 1Nm of torque if i had have bought model x if you know what I mean.
    Cheers,
    Shannon.

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    I hear you. Well whatever you choose it should do well for your use, except for screwing sleepers (mak too light) IMO

    Feel them in your hand, imagine you're screwing sleepers and make your commitment.
    One thing I will tip you on though is; make sure the drill has a metal chuck on it...they are heavy duty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tezza View Post
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    make sure the drill has a metal chuck on it...they are heavy duty
    ...
    Yep, noted. I've seen some of the Milwaukees have carbide jaws that's getting pretty serious.
    Cheers,
    Shannon.

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    What a bust. Very surprised at lack of battery tool representation at the show. Maybe I've just never noticed it before...

    Dewalt, metabo, Bosch and festool well represented. Looked at a Bosch set for a while. Unimpressed with the hammer drill driver so decided not to make a spur of the moment change.

    I also need to retract what I said about the makita lxt not having smart batteries. There is just as much information for the lxt being individual cell friendly as not. A call to makita will put an end to it.
    Cheers,
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    Just to finish this story off, I went the Milwaukee 1.5Ah kit (C18 PP2A-22C including drill C18 DD and driver C18ID) from trade tools for $389.

    A quick review:

    First impressions are 100% satisfied. Hunting for victims, I laid eyes on a 3 1/2" coach screw. No pilot hole into pine 4" post. High speed to start was excellent them a very positive Kah Kah Kah to drive it home. It did slow down toward the end, but nothing to stop me trying another one and it buried that too. Socket actually slipped off because the head buried too deep in the timber. Current draw per cell is halved in the 3Ah packs, so guessing it will be even more impressive with them.

    Balance is a bit top heavy on both with the 1.5 Ah packs, but not enough to be a strain.

    The drill is great too, the clutch selection is positive but the 1st/2nd gear selector does stick occasionally. I found this to be the case with the makita too and I'm not bothered by it.

    As this set is sitting alongside makita's and hitachi's 1.5Ah combos at a similar price but without the extended warranty I can't recommend it strongly enough.

    Thanks for all your input, im looking forward to trying it out on some big projects coming up
    Cheers,
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    Where are the photos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tezza View Post

    The other thing is that the makita impact drivers (rattle guns) are very light and without due hand pressure, the tip seems to slip off the screw,
    I have the 1/4 and 1/2 inch Makita impact drivers and if you think they are light you are stronger than me

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    My apologies! Of course with no pics it never happened...

    The coach screws mentioned before;





    I only have one fluro in the garage and this wood rack is at the other end behind the bandsaw. It's dull but not dark, but my point is the work light made a difference. They are very bright and well centered around the axis of the drive shaft.

    The case is pretty compact. There is room for full size batteries even though this is sold as a compact kit.

    One thing I did find really useful with the hitachi was that I could leave a 16mm twist drill in the chuck and throw the drill back in the case. Not so here. Hardly a deal breaker.
    There is a bit of room around the two, and there is a bit of handy space in front of the driver to leave most common drives in if you have one you use a lot.



    Both come with belt clips, but there is only a tool bit holder on the drill. Odd, for $2 they could have finished the job.



    I could have been very happy with a third battery from hitachi or makita, and I do really like the fluro/torch work light offered by makita. I like the idea of fronting up for a new battery 2yrs from now even more though.

    One thing I read a lot of was people stating they would never use the impact driver for drilling holes because of the shock and breaking bits. They have a good point for larger diameters but I will absolutely be drilling small holes in wood, sheet steel, tin etc if using pop rivets or something else because of the much higher speed of the impact driver. I already had a p&n hex drive drill/driver bit set and they just work so well snapping from one to the other. I see a 5mm pilot, 7mm batten screw combination in hardwood being the go.

    Any other questions, happy to help.

    Cheers.
    Cheers,
    Shannon.

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    Thats the problem these days, you first have to make a commitment to a battery and charger and then select the tools. I have about $700 tied up in 2 battery chargers and batteries for LXT tools
    Glad that you are happy with the Milwaukee, reading between the lines earlier I think your heart was saying Milwaukee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClintO View Post
    I have the 1/4 and 1/2 inch Makita impact drivers and if you think they are light you are stronger than me
    Must be all that wholesome homemade Greek cooking my mother makes me eat lmao

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    Shannon, awesome! you'll love them

    What's next on the list? one of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robomanic View Post

    Both come with belt clips, but there is only a tool bit holder on the drill. Odd, for $2 they could have finished the job.
    I am think u will be very happy with ur purchase. I found the 1 bit holder odd too when i bought mine. It just doesn't look finished off with a spare threaded hole sitting there.
    Anyway i got from from this guy on eBay
    Milwaukee M18 Impact Driver 2650-20/2650-21 Bit Holder | eBay
    i am pretty sure that's the right part number. I definitly got it off that seller anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClintO View Post
    Thats the problem these days, you first have to make a commitment to a battery and charger and then select the tools. I have about $700 tied up in 2 battery chargers and batteries for LXT tools
    Glad that you are happy with the Milwaukee, reading between the lines earlier I think your heart was saying Milwaukee

    yep, not to mention the couple of grand in other tool "skins"

    but i love the fact i can fit a kitchen, using only cordless tools these days. The LXT battery 80mm planer is a cracker. Just need the cordless compound mitresaw to complete the collection [for now]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCP310 View Post

    but i love the fact i can fit a kitchen, using only cordless tools these days. The LXT battery 80mm planer is a cracker. Just need the cordless compound mitresaw to complete the collection [for now]
    Especially important when you visit sites that require corded tools to be tested and tagged frequently

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