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    Default Makita BDF452SHE Cordless Drill?

    Time to bite the bullet and upgrade the pos Ryobi that I have. I've decided that the 18V makita corless drille (BDF452SHE) is probably a goer.

    Best I can find it for in Sydney seems to be $299 but I honestly haven't looked that hard. That include 2x1.5Ah lithium batteries, charger and case from SydneyTools.

    Does anyone know of any specials going on in Sydney with this drill so I can get it at a better price.
    Need to save all the money I can at the moment but just can't bring myself to buy another #### drill which will cause me misery for another few years like the ryobi has done.

    Any other cordless drill @ <$300 that may be better?


    Ergonics are important to me as is torque. I like the compact nature of this drill.

    Many thanks for your responses. I plan to purchase Friday so sorry for the short notice but at the same time don't wait too long to give me those pointers :LOL:.


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    PS:Not too worried about hammer action or 3Ah batteries to the point I'm willing to spend $100+ for it.

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    Ergonics??? I assume you mean ergonomics? In that case your choice is good.

    Is 1.5 amphours enough??

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Ergonics??? I assume you mean ergonomics? In that case your choice is good.
    Yes good call on the typo. I make plenty of them accidently since I'm thinking miles ahead of where I'm typing usually

    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Is 1.5 amphours enough??
    I'm not a tradie so it doesn't need to run for hours between charges. 2 batteries with 15 minute charge time sounds like it will be fine I'm assuming. I'm guessing that the battery will be charged well before the other one runs out anyway.

    At the moment my current POS ryobi has a charge time of 8hrs and runs for 5 minutes and the chuck wobbles while running like a pensioner with a dud hip :LOL:

    Anyone know roughly how long 1.5Ah will last on this unit out of curiosity? I understand it depends on load but an avg ballpark figure will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    Yes good call on the typo. I make plenty of them accidently since I'm thinking miles ahead of where I'm typing usually



    I'm not a tradie so it doesn't need to run for hours between charges. 2 batteries with 15 minute charge time sounds like it will be fine I'm assuming. I'm guessing that the battery will be charged well before the other one runs out anyway.

    At the moment my current POS ryobi has a charge time of 8hrs and runs for 5 minutes and the chuck wobbles while running like a pensioner with a dud hip :LOL:

    Anyone know roughly how long 1.5Ah will last on this unit out of curiosity? I understand it depends on load but an avg ballpark figure will do.
    I get about an hour and a half of solid use out of mine.
    The batteries charge quickly.
    A very good drill.
    Sydney Tools is one of the cheapest around - certainly was when I was looking for a saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    Yes good call on the typo. I make plenty of them accidently since I'm thinking miles ahead of where I'm typing usually



    I'm not a tradie so it doesn't need to run for hours between charges. 2 batteries with 15 minute charge time sounds like it will be fine I'm assuming. I'm guessing that the battery will be charged well before the other one runs out anyway.

    At the moment my current POS ryobi has a charge time of 8hrs and runs for 5 minutes and the chuck wobbles while running like a pensioner with a dud hip :LOL:

    Anyone know roughly how long 1.5Ah will last on this unit out of curiosity? I understand it depends on load but an avg ballpark figure will do.
    I'd go for 3.0ah battery, but it'll over our budget.
    I don't mean to destroy oz business, but you can get the bare tool from US or eBay with a lot cheaper price and get battery/charger locally. That's how I got my Hitachi 18V combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecsk View Post
    I'd go for 3.0ah battery, but it'll over our budget.
    I don't mean to destroy oz business, but you can get the bare tool from US or eBay with a lot cheaper price and get battery/charger locally. That's how I got my Hitachi 18V combo.
    I had a look at this option (ebay). I think if you go for combo sets it starts to make sense but a combo set (2+more items for eg drll+impact driver etc) is well above my budget. I did the sums for a single drill, charger, two batteries, case and a transformer for the 240->110V for the charger and it comes out a fair chunk dearer buying all the pieces. Yes the batteries are 3.0Ah as standard it seems over there in the US. Once again australia gets short changed in that area but what can you do. This was ebay.

    Anyone have any stores where it would work out cheaper or even the same as $299 (inc transformer) and selling a new drill (not refurb) I'd like to know which stores.

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    Well picked it up for $299 today. Despite the hot weather was set on doing some work and all I can say it that it is an amazing drill compared to the ryobi. That's not saying much but it's even better than my dads old makita and I would of been happy if mine was as good as that. Damn thing nearly broke my wrist it had so much torque. Need to watch that in the future.

    Batteries were fully charged in 5 minutes from new though manual says 30 minutes if flat. I read somewhere 15 minutes but that's probably with a better charger that the US probably get..Oh well not a big deal. Better than nicad charge times by a long shot and the charger is smart enough to indicate when 80% charge is reached so if you are impatient you know you have at least a decent amount in the tank.

    The chuck tightening mechanism is fantastic. No more two handed fastening necessary and a nice solid grasp every time.

    Need to get used to the forward/reverse switch as it's backwards tot he POS ryobi I had :lol:.

    All up extremely pleased with the purchase.

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    Congrats on the purchase montiee. Good to see your happy with it.

    I got mine several months ago and so far so good. It's my first cordless so have nothing really to compare it to, but can't complain.

    Has done everything i've thrown at it so all's good.

    Cheers,
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    I just got the Drill & Driver combo from ebay last friday. and to say i am very happy would be saying the least.

    for a while i was saying 18v was overkill but after using it allday saturday, its the ducks nuts.

    the combo work well together.

    i have just purchased the circular saw now, with the jigsaw not far away either

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    That was the drill I bought as well, though I splashed out and got the impact driver as well ($469 for the both). So far the 1.5Ah batteries have been fine for work around the home.

    Bit annoyed it didn't come with a tool-bit holder. Ordered one from Total Tools for the princely sum of $3. However, didn't order the screw needed with it (!) but since I don't use the belt clip just took the screw off that one.

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    Hi all. I also recently bought this drill (one with hammer feature) and am VERY happy with it. Solid build, lots of torque, super quick battery charge time. Next on the list is the driver drill

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCP310 View Post
    i have just purchased the circular saw now, with the jigsaw not far away either

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    I never saw the attraction to a cordless saw or anything else cordless unless you are a tradie working on a new home construction site or in the bush. The drill is useful because when I drill into cavities I usually turn the power off as a safety precaution so the cordless nature becomes necessary. With a saw/jigsaw etc usually you know what you are cutting through. In those cases I go power cord version. After a while you realise cordless costs alot of money to keep. I have a garage full of corded tools going back 15 years and will last probably another 15. Can't say I have anything cordless past 2 years. When the batteries die it's usually as expensive buying a new tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I never saw the attraction to a cordless saw or anything else cordless unless you are a tradie working on a new home construction site or in the bush. The drill is useful because when I drill into cavities I usually turn the power off as a safety precaution so the cordless nature becomes necessary. With a saw/jigsaw etc usually you know what you are cutting through. In those cases I go power cord version. After a while you realise cordless costs alot of money to keep. I have a garage full of corded tools going back 15 years and will last probably another 15. Can't say I have anything cordless past 2 years. When the batteries die it's usually as expensive buying a new tool.
    i see your point, i just sold 3 drills on ebay, 2 were 16 years old and the other 13, the batteries on the other hand were 18months old

    i like the idea of not having to drag cords out for a quick cut.

    its the first lot of trade grade tools i have bought in about 8 years, and its changed my outlook towards buying crap. years ago i would argue if its only for domestic use, buy cheap tools, but i feel now it only encourages other cheap tool companies to produce more crap tools.

    we used the impact driver to drive in 120 batten screws into pine, and i forgot to pack the new charger, so i told the father in law to give his new ozito ago as we only had about 10 to go. the ozito couldnt drive the screws in half way, we ended up using the corded drill to finish the job

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    oh, and a phonecall from the tax dept letting me know about the gov investment tax rebate scheme gave me an incentive to upgrade my tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecsk View Post
    I'd go for 3.0ah battery, but it'll over our budget.
    I don't mean to destroy oz business, but you can get the bare tool from US or eBay with a lot cheaper price and get battery/charger locally. That's how I got my Hitachi 18V combo.
    Not when I was looking a few weeks ago. Would have ended up a fair bit more expensive AND no warrenty. Buyers really need to have a proper look and work things out.

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