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12th March 2012, 07:23 PM #1Member
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Two circular saws die within one day of each other. Replacements?
I cant believe my bad luck?
I have two 185mm circular saws one is a Skill that I have had under the triton bench(never goes anywhere else) for 10+ years. Its always blow cleaned after use never forced never made to cut too thick. Its had an easy life.
The other is a cheap no name that hangs around the shed and does odd tasks and pretty much not looked after. I had to cut some 40mm thick pine. yesterday.
I got the old out and got about 50mm into the cut when smoke poured out the back.
Had a look inside, motor windings melted.
Was desperate so ran to bunnings and purchased a cheapish makita, did the job with ease. Quite happy with it for $125.
Just one of those days I thought.
this evening, totally different job, I had to trim some 15mm hardwood. Dragged the triton/skill out did about two 400mm cuts and she started billowing smoke.
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Exactly the same problem, windings melted.
Bad 240? cant be I used bandsaws and orbital sanders and host of other power tools all day yesterday and today.
So now I have to find a circular saw to fit under the triton, I mean what else can I do? No point crying. I have projects to get on with.
so Im thinking to push it a 235mm, got caught a few times in the past not having quite enough height.
but do I go cheap bunnings,ozi,aeg,etc or pay the $300 for something semi decent just to sit under the triton.
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13th March 2012, 03:42 AM #2Tool collector
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Hi Xgrain,
from your intro i got the impression that you treat your tools right, and in that case two of them failing so quickly after another is very odd indeed. I would first check your shop's power supply. Is there a loose connection? This can produce spurious power spikes combined with voltage and power loss. Ask your neighbours; have they noticed something odd on thei tv-sets or with their household appliances around the moments where your saws failed? Has there been some voltage dip or spike during that time or have their been any digging works going on, in which a neutral connection has been damaged or momentaruilybeen interrupted? In Europe, for instance, most houses receive all three phases and a neutral connection. The phases are often used to evenly spread the load of multi 16Amp groups per household, with eg. L1 being used for living room and bedrooms, L2 for the kitschen and L3 for the bathrooms and washing machines. The ways those household wirings are laid out can lead to trhe phenomenon of the "floating zero". With the neutral wire poorly connected or not connected at all, a voltage of a level equal to that between two L-leads, can in such cases be found on the prongs of a wall outlet, immediately burning an appliance of piece of consumer electonics. Apparently you have opened the tools to watch the windings and commutator. Was the capacitor blown as well? That's another telltale sign for voltage spikes. Use a good voltage meter or, when you know someone with an oscilloscope or graphing meter, try to determine if there are fluctuatons and of so, how bad they are. If nothing can be found and if your shop's power supply really is okay, than you have experienced the small chance of losing something twice, like others expericence the very small chance of winning two prizes in one lottery draw.
greetings
gerhard
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13th March 2012, 07:53 AM #3Member
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thanks for those thoughts gerhard, I am at a total loss to explain this brief encounter with the twilight zone. Power in the shop looks like its fine, no problems elsewhere
Will just have to put it down to bad luck.
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13th March 2012, 08:40 AM #4
remember they come in threes...
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13th March 2012, 08:40 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Hello Xgrain,
I have learnt from bitter experience - buy the best that you can afford, particularly for the Triton. I have a 10' Wolf on mine and it goes like a dream. Personally I wouldn favour a Triton or Dewalt as a replacement on the Triton - the bigger the better because you are not lifting it. Drillit.
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15th March 2012, 12:05 PM #6Member
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Yep have gone with a Triton TA235Csl. We will see.
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15th March 2012, 10:22 PM #7the tool specialists
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The industrial saws have come down quite a bit lately, they are going for the low $200's instead of the mid $300's that they use to. Triton use to recomend the Hitachi c9 when they didnt have there own saw & to this day most guys still have there original hitachi saw under there work centre. We have a customer thats had one for over 12years & is still going strong, with saws one of the most important factors to its survival is a good quality sharp blade & allowing the saw to cut not bog it down
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