Thanks: 0
Likes: 0
Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 1 to 10 of 10
-
6th June 2013, 10:11 PM #1... and this too shall pass away ...
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Brisbane (Chermside)
- Age
- 71
- Posts
- 2,084
For me ... customer service counts
When I started woodworking I bought four hand power tools of German origin, at the recommendation of the retailer. Also, I bought a combination jointer/thicknesser, also German but a different manufacturer. They were "cutting edge" machines ... "the latest in German technology. The retailer was close to me, so consumables and repair parts were also close. I was a happy woodworker ... for a while.
I am never likely to buy such "latest features - great German technology" products again.
In both cases the customer service has been abysmal. Getting parts for the jointer/thicknesser is a nightmare. Four to eight weeks delay is standard, but can be far worse. Now my retailer tells me the machine I have is not likely to be supported much longer ... because the model is now over ten years old ... so if something breaks I may need to buy a new machine.
The sanders have been good, so long as one does not need to buy sandpaper for them. The manufacturer decided to tell retailers that unless they purchased at least a certain amount, they would not be supplied. The upshot is that the number of suppliers has plummeted, (my nearby supplier can no longer provide sanding pads, drive belts, blades and etc) and I now need a cut lunch and a compass to buy sandpaper for my sanders, or to get them serviced. Today I ran out of sanding pads for one of my sanders. It will cost me at least an hour and a half to buy these pads.
One of my RO sanders has developed a bug in its speed control. It will not be repaired. I will take a certain perverse joy in throwing it out and buying a new tool, probably from a Japanese company.
I have a 7 V Makita cordless electric drill/screwdriver bought in April 1982. Try as I might ... abuse it as I do ... I can't kill it. It refuses to die. The story gets gets better. All these years later I can still buy batteries and parts for it ... if I ever need parts ... apart from batteries I have not needed any parts.
My table saw, band saw, linisher and spindle moulder are all of Chinese/Taiwanese origin. Fancy they are not; but day after month after year they chug along giving faithful service. Ten years after I bought them I was able to purchase a new and upgraded fence for the table saw and new upgraded blade guides for the band saw. My hand power saw (Japanese) was also bought in 1982, and has never missed a beat. My Japanese drop saw continues to give great service, and parts for both of them are still available if they are needed.
Vent over. Please think carefully before buying. After sales service is critical. What good is a "cutting edge" machine if consumables and parts are not freely available? I can still buy parts for my old Japanese and Chinese machines. That will do me. Farewell to high tech German machines.
-
6th June 2013 10:11 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Age
- 2010
- Posts
- Many
-
6th June 2013, 11:10 PM #2Senior Member
- Join Date
- Oct 2003
- Location
- Gold Coast,Australia
- Age
- 49
- Posts
- 350
got sucked into a high end German router from the local toolshop rep, and i wont be making that mistake again. should have bought the japanese version with all the bells and whistles and saved myself $400.00
i was told that the german one will outlast the japanese one, He best be prepared to duck quickly if anything happens to the bearings in the german router i have, for it will be sailing thru his front window at a rapid rate.
at least the systainer will protect it
-
6th June 2013, 11:49 PM #3
John
That perverse joy, could you have it in my direction. I may be able to use it for spares on mine. Thinking it is black with green writing.
-
7th June 2013, 12:01 AM #4... and this too shall pass away ...
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Brisbane (Chermside)
- Age
- 71
- Posts
- 2,084
I got one of those routers too.
Chances are that the motors and bearings will last forever. But when I must wait for over a month for a part (this happened with my thicknesser/jointer - during which time I couldn't use the machine), and the gloss of "superior technology" soon wears off.
I waited nearly three months for a plastic part for the dust collection on my jointer ... for two months for another plastic part for the router. Having great bearings and motors counts for nil when the machine is parked up ... unusable ... because a cheap plastic part or a rubber drive belt or nylon gear is not available.
Good technology is desirable, and I am willing to pay for it ... provide I get good customer service ... and I do not. It is woeful. I can buy sanding pads from almost any hardware store for nearly every machine on the market ... except the brand I have. These pads are available only from "authorised" distributors, which are very thin on the ground.
I'm cured.
-
7th June 2013, 12:06 AM #5
I don't worry about their pads, I just get regular 150mm Velcro. There is another paper on the market, think it may have been FenceFurniture who showed me. It has multiple small holes and works with any hole pattern.
-
7th June 2013, 08:30 AM #6... and this too shall pass away ...
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Brisbane (Chermside)
- Age
- 71
- Posts
- 2,084
-
7th June 2013, 08:33 AM #7... and this too shall pass away ...
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Brisbane (Chermside)
- Age
- 71
- Posts
- 2,084
-
7th June 2013, 12:42 PM #8
-
7th June 2013, 09:27 PM #9wood duck 2
- Join Date
- May 2006
- Location
- melbourne
- Posts
- 83
Hi John
I read your post with interest.
I be interested to know the brand of thicknesser/jointer you have.
Most German companies are pretty good to deal with.
With regards to your Festool sander, it should be pretty easy to scource sanding pads from one of the larger Festool dealers interstate via the internet and have them posted to you the next day.
OK it's not as convenient as being able to walk into a shop to buy them and there is the added postage cost but it's still not that inconvenient and you get them posted to your door.
With regards to getting plastic parts I'm surprised to hear it can take up to 2 months.
If the parts are small and fairly light weight most reputable wholesalers would have these airfreighted out and bear the cost of the freight themselves or if it is a current model and the have it in stock they would barstadize the parts you need from their own stock and then replace those parts when they receive them at a later date.
90% of my tools are Festool and I have found them to be excellent and have had no problems with after sales service.
-
7th June 2013, 10:22 PM #10
When I was working (kitchen manufacturing, looking after up to 12 employees), and we needed repairs done our local power supplier was the place to go. They had 2 blokes in that section and both were really good tradesman who could do a good job and have the tool back ASAP if parts were forth coming. In the main we had a good run. I remember we had a problem with a Makita trimmer. When I asked when I should drop back to pick it up the answer was "Depends on Makita". When I asked what he meant, his answer was....Makita will fill a container with orders from Australia. If your order arrived,at Makita, just as the previous container was sealed it could be weeks before your order of parts arrived because they would only ship full containers.
I think with a lot of tools we use its a lottery to see how they perform. Some swear by a brand while the next bloke only swears at itJust do it!
Kind regards Rod
Similar Threads
-
Very odd customer service from the US
By Woodwould in forum WOODWORK - GENERALReplies: 19Last Post: 22nd July 2009, 06:59 PM -
Customer service
By Soren in forum HAVE YOUR SAYReplies: 5Last Post: 2nd March 2008, 09:49 AM -
Customer Service
By Rodgera in forum WOODIES JOKESReplies: 1Last Post: 8th June 2006, 11:30 PM -
Customer service - wha....?
By Driver in forum NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORKReplies: 6Last Post: 23rd October 2005, 09:00 PM -
Customer Service
By Stuart in forum HAVE YOUR SAYReplies: 7Last Post: 12th December 2003, 09:32 AM