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    Default dangerous zero insert plate

    i made a nice zero insert plate for my tablesaw from a piece of teak, i sat the fence just on the edge when i raised the blade to make the cut so it would not fly up, good so far, but when i turn on the saw now the plate wants to jump up and attack me, did i do something to offend it or is my plate just a tat loose...



    looks nice though.




    could someone please enlighten me...
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    Did you faithfully follow the old plate's profile? If it is too loose, you can shim it with masking tape.

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    Hi La Huerta!
    There's generally a spring steel tongue on the forward edge and a retaining screw on the rear of any insert, precisely to prevent it making a bid for freedom.

    Does the standard one have such an arrangement? Any ZCI should have the same.

    Cheers!

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    no the standard one has no such arrangement, so i did not think of that at the time, but it does have a 1/2 in wide blade hole...hence the pursue of a new plate.
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    Can you screw it down?

    The insert on my old shopsmith table saw has counter sunk holes in it so it is held down with counter sunk screws.
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    Making an insert out of anything other than plywood invites a possible dent in the forehead. Wood moves and it can't be stopped so when that piece moves and pinches on the blade you have a problem. Ply (the better the quality the more stable the insert) on the other hand doesn't move so you have less chance of having a possible kick back. You could also screw a small tongue on the back of the insert to help stop it from wanting to kick back.

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    La Huerta,
    when I made my Zero insert plate I drilled 4 holes, one for each of the support tags that are under the plate and used largish counter sunk screws to hold it down. Works a treat and only takes a few secs to undo when changing blades, which for me seems like every time I want to cut something!

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    screwing down sounds like the way to go, i'v got little supports under there...i might even do a ply one too, did'nt think of wood moveement...did'nt really think at all

    if fact i cont evn ty[pe straiht latey .. !?
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    Mine are made from merbau and are not screwed down. Haven't had one fly up at me yet. I made them a firm fit. I also drilled a 4mm hole in the edge at each corner and used a small plug cutter to cut some 4mm rubber plugs from an old tyre which I pushed into the holes and trimmed off just proud of the surface. They're a nice tight fit, quick to change and the rubber plugs hold them in place.
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    Large washer on the far edge hooks under the ledge and holds mine in place. No screws, pops out easy when I want to remove it. so far hasn't threatened to take flight.

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    the large washer on the far edge did the trick mate, i also gave the timber a little tap undernieth around the edges to swell it out a bit and it's a nice tight fit, it must be happy as it did not lunge out at me this time...


    many thanks to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC
    Mine are made from merbau and are not screwed down. Haven't had one fly up at me yet. I made them a firm fit. I also drilled a 4mm hole in the edge at each corner and used a small plug cutter to cut some 4mm rubber plugs from an old tyre which I pushed into the holes and trimmed off just proud of the surface. They're a nice tight fit, quick to change and the rubber plugs hold them in place.

    I had a similar problem. No matter how well I cut the wood there was always a little slop in the insert.

    To fix this I added thumbtacks on the side of the insert at the point where the curve starts and these were placed at all four points where the curve starts.

    I also used thumbtacks to adjust the height if there were discrepinces in the thickness of the board.

    I'm heading out to the shed in a few minutes so will get you some piccies.
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    thumb tacks...

    don't you just love how the simplest ideas solve the biggest problems...


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    As promised here are said piccies of ZCI, with thumbtack shims. Sorry I was a bit late with these. Got sidetracked and made a new mailbox. Gonna post a piccy or two as well
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    sounds like your on a roll with the piccy posting...


    many thanks, i'll do this to keep it all nice and tight...


    la H
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