Thanks: 0
Likes: 0
Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 1 to 5 of 5
-
10th February 2007, 10:02 PM #1Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Ireland
- Posts
- 110
Derek's belt sander vs. bench grinder of any speed??
From what I've read so far the belt sander with drawer pull attached seems to have everthing going for it when it comes to grinding blades. This is the set up that I'm leaning towards in my search to find a good mechanised method of grinding. However, I'm still curious about the high speed grinder, especially as plenty of people continue to use it. Are there any advantages in using one as opposed to the belt sander - what do its main advocates have to say for it?
By the way this isn't an attempt to stir the pot and start an argument, it's just that I'm genuinely keen to know the pros and cons of both systems.
Ps. reading back over this I think it should be widened to include all grinder types (low speed like the Tormek as well) versus Derek's system. It was a bit dumb of me not to do this from the outset!
I hope I'm not starting a thread too similar to the other one on grinding speeds.Last edited by woden; 10th February 2007 at 11:16 PM. Reason: I should have included all speeds of grinder first time round.
-
10th February 2007 10:02 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Posts
- Many
-
11th February 2007, 01:56 AM #2
Just a head's up - FWW have published a bare bones version of the Mk I in the latest mag. They really know how to ignore features!
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
-
11th February 2007, 03:57 AM #3Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Ireland
- Posts
- 110
Derek, which system would you say is fastest at grinding out nicks from a blade - I'm thinking of very coarse shaping of blades here. I don't mind doing the honing by hand through using either the scary sharp method at the moment or eventially waterstones which I plan to graduate to but I'm looking for a fast system of shaping the bevel to begin with. Which cuts through steel the most quickly: a belt sander with a coarse belt, a high speed bench grinder with a white wheel or something like a tormek? This isn't just a question to you, I'm just throwing it out there.
I don't want to replicate the other thread comparing grinders so I don't want to just limit things to speed alone. What about cost? Which is cheapest: a durable cast-iron belt sander combo/drawer pull or a good quality bench grinder or slow speed water cooled version?
-
14th February 2007, 09:37 AM #4Senior Member
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Ireland
- Posts
- 110
I've hit a rocky patch in my efforts to find a good quality belt sander with a cast iron platen. There simply don't seem to be any for sale in this part of the world for a similar price to the Carba-tec sander Derek bought. It's at a price of AUS$329 and sanders for around that price in the UK all seem to have pressed steel platens. It's not until you spend twice as much that you get a cast steel platen over here. This version by Sealey looks similar to Derek’s but look at the price – that’s the equivalent of AUS$659 – about the same price as a 10” Tormek over here!
So I’m not sure what to do. The cast iron version is beyond my budget for now and I don’t really want to spend a not inconsiderable amount on a pressed steel one that will only warp out of shape with frequent grinding. I’ve seen some cast ones come up on ebay but the cost of shipping is prohibitive and I’m wary of purchasing a bench power tool without things like guarantees and so on.
This development has forced me to look at grinders which – from what little I know, admittedly – are either too slow for reshaping or fast enough to easily burn an edge if you don’t know what you’re doing (me again). There is a medium speed grinder of about 1500rpm which looks interesting… I dunno. Advice needed.
-
14th February 2007, 12:05 PM #5
Woden
You can do as others have done (and as I did as well), with the cheap pressed steel version you need to add a piece of glass to the surface (just contact glue a piecethat is 6mm thick). This will maintain the flatness you need.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
Similar Threads
-
Grinder speed
By jmk89 in forum HAND TOOLS - POWEREDReplies: 30Last Post: 7th February 2007, 07:24 AM -
Using a belt sander upside down
By BobL in forum HAND TOOLS - POWEREDReplies: 12Last Post: 17th November 2006, 08:10 AM -
Belt Sander cheapest way to buy belts!
By Shannon Nash in forum WOODWORK - GENERALReplies: 5Last Post: 24th January 2006, 09:14 PM -
High Speed Grinder Jig
By jow104 in forum HOMEMADE TOOLS AND JIGS ETC.Replies: 0Last Post: 19th August 2004, 11:05 PM -
Makita M992 Belt Sander
By Bernie Summers in forum HAND TOOLS - POWEREDReplies: 1Last Post: 9th October 2000, 07:10 AM