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Thread: feedback on ML-392.... so far
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21st March 2005, 01:57 PM #1
feedback on ML-392.... so far
A number of weeks ago I purchased a ML-392 from Timbecon after quite a while agonising over whether to get combo machines or standalone etc.
Given the expected level of use (occasional hobbyist) I decided the combo machine was the best value.
Anyways, first off the fence that came with it was bowed. Took that back to Timbecon and they replaced it without a problem. As already posted numerous times the fence is pretty lightweight crap, but I knew that.
The fence also does no sit at a right angle to the blades, it is off on an angle to a certain extent, however it doesnt seem to make a lot of difference.
There was also a screw missing from the dust extraction hood, so that the internal gate was only supported by one screw.
In general, I am quite happy with the job it has done so far, I have run quite a number of pieces through it so far and have produced nice and flat boards. Ran some 1.8 metre lengths of Jarrah through yesterday and it cleaned them up nicely. This was stuff that had some twists and bows that I bought from a salvage yard for $20. After I cleaned them up, the equivalent was selling for about $60 at bunnings...
Only thing I am finding a pain at the moment is waste extraction. I only purchased a 1 HP extractor and while this is sucking up the chips so they are notgetting pressed into the boards, I am still getting a lot of waste falling onto the outfeed table.
Anyways, so far so good, no mechanical problems. The machine is handling the work I have for it no problem so Im happy so far.
I know there was some talk about grub screws etc needing tightened, but Im buggered if i can see what people are talking about, so if anyone has pics of the area (closeup), I'd be interested to see them as I want to keep this machine running smoothly.
Also, how long will the blades generally last for? and is there a recommended way to replace them (do you use one of those jigs with the magnets?)
cheers
RB
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21st March 2005, 07:38 PM #2
RB,
Same problem with the fence - awaiting replacement. I have had problems with the timber stopping when it gets to the outfeed roller. This causes the serated infeed roller to do a 'burnout' on the timber. Only way to stop it is to push the timber FIRMLY as it gets to the roller. Any suggestions on adjusting the outfeed roller?
DanIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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21st March 2005, 09:26 PM #3
Dan,
Are you putting something on the table to help the timber slide easily. Like wax for instance. It makes all the difference to mine. (and not taking too big a depth of cut also.)If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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21st March 2005, 09:32 PM #4
Gumby,
Waxed the table and took less than 1/2 mm cut.
DanIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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21st March 2005, 09:32 PM #5Originally Posted by Redback
The blade life will depend on the type of timber you usually work. Hard wood will obviously take more off them than pine. Same with painted surfaces if you put them through. That will dull them fairly quickly. I thought I saw that Carbatec had the blades for about $40 a set when i bought the machine last year. I got a bit of a shock at the price on the Timbecon site. Over $70 ! I don't know if Carbatec still have any but I might check them out tomorrow and if they are still around $40 I'll buy a couple of sets and stick them away until needed.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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21st March 2005, 09:35 PM #6Originally Posted by DanPIf at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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21st March 2005, 11:35 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Have a look here for the discussion re the grub screw. http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ghlight=ml-392Start at post #22 and read the next few.
I thought I read somewhere (maybe another thread) that the Timbecon ML392 blades were carbide tipped. They are promoted at being resharpenable. I am not sure that the Carba-tec ones are. Though I don't see why not. For $39 why would you bother. I have replaced mine once as some recycled timber (Oregon) chipped them. Could have adjusted the blades so the the dings were out of line and possibly cured the problem.
For setting up the blades I use the Planer Blade Setting Jig from Carba-Tec (PSJ-01). Works fine. At first it took a little getting used to, as you have to ensure that the magnetic legs are seated properly and equal distance from the blade. Good lighting helps here. I also use the Planer Blade Hone (K-10-D) diamond coated for giving the blades a quick touch up.
If you look at my two threads on the ML392 you will see that one of them covers all the dicking around I did to get the rollers working so that I did not have to do chin-up on the timber to get it through. Waxing did make a BIG difference. At that time I just used a common candle for the wax.
Hope that this will help some.Bob
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22nd March 2005, 12:01 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I have had problems with the timber stopping when it gets to the outfeed roller. This causes the serated infeed roller to do a 'burnout' on the timber. Only way to stop it is to push the timber FIRMLY as it gets to the roller. Any suggestions on adjusting the outfeed roller?
I am probably stating the obvious but sometimes we overlook the simple things when troubleshooting problems.
Eliminate bows in the timber - have you tried turning the timber over and does it still get hung up on the outfeed roller?
Is your infeed on a parallel path to the table - If the timber is hanging down on the infeed then it can hook up on the outfeed roller.
Is you dust extraction effective - If not shavings can quickly coat the infeed roller resulting in making the drive ineffective. Having used the ML392 I would put my money on this as I think the design can be inproved on the dust hood.
Hope this helps.Cheers,
Rod
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22nd March 2005, 08:45 PM #9
I bought a new set of blades from carbatec (Bayswater) today. They had a set on a machine whch had fallen off the shelf :eek: , so they guy took the blades out and sold them to me for $30. great deal i think. I must say, they had staff everywhere today, seemed very busy and I was asked several times if I needed help. I was impressed.
They have another tool auction on sat 9th April if anyone is interested.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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22nd March 2005, 10:53 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Any bet there'll be a slightly shop soiled ML-392 going Cheep Cheep?
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23rd March 2005, 06:33 PM #11