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28th September 2006, 10:06 AM #1Novice
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Flip Saws
Hello fellow workworker in cyberland. I'm new here - so no fancy web stuff - just a basic communication.
I have a couple of Triton Workcentres - one of which houses a Triton router (does anyone know who makes this machine? I understand it is from Taiwan). The other Workbench has a 235mm Makita saw in it.
But I am getting interested in the Elu TGS173 or 273. Or maybe even the Dewalt DW742. The Elus would be at least 6 years old (273 model) or maybe 10-15 years old in the case of the 173 model. I believe the Dewalts were available until very recently - so maybe they would be less than 5 years old.
I do recycling of old hardwood for building purposes - and on occasion, some funriture - when I get time. So there is a fair bit of ripping and cutting of old timbers to get them into shape. Some of this timber is big and tough - like 100x100mm Bluegum (30 YO).
I recently purchased a small GMC SCMS for mitre and cross cut work - but this just got me wanting something better.
I like the idea/specs of the Elu/Dewalt saws as I believe one of these would replace the GMC (fro mitre work) and even do a better job than my Triton 2000/Makita combination for ripping down large timbers to managable sizes.
I would be looking for a 2nd hand saw - probably.
So here are my questions.
1. Who has experience with Elu/Dewalt flip saws - and any comments about them?
2. Do they have enough power (1650watts versus my Makita with 1750watts) for ripping hardwood. I also have a Skil 2200 watt saw - but I've never fitted it to the Triton (it's my replacement when the Makita falls over).
3. Is the belt-drive a problem in over-loading the induction motor?
4. What's the spare-parts situation? Available (from where) - expensive?
5. I have seen on eBay an Elu copy from TWM. These machines go for around $330. Does anyone know who TWM is - which country? Company website so I can check them out? Are these machines any good? Do they have the nice (quiet) induction motor? Are they a nicely finished product - like most of the European tools - or the usual 'Asian' finish.
I like the idea of the Elu as it's manufactured in Europe (France, Switzerland and Italy) - as European stuff is usually pretty good. (Although I have a couple of Skil tools from Holland - not too impressed with them).
Any ideas and input on where to purchase an Elu - apart from on eBay would be welcome.
Thanks
Len
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28th September 2006, 10:17 AM #2
For the work you are doing, I can't see the value in changing from your Triton and Makita setup.
If it does the job (and it should), why take a sideways step ?If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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28th September 2006, 10:50 AM #3
If you really want an ELU flip saw, check your PM from me.
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28th September 2006, 01:42 PM #4
I've used an old ELU flip saw (De Walt is pretty much the same, but rebadged as they bought out Elu) Sort of handy for site work, being able to rip, good for ripping down jambs etc. However they're pretty heavy and cumbersome compared to a normal drop saw and the arrangement for cutting mitres is clumsy to say the least. Rather than the whole motor/blade assembly pivotting they stay stationary and the fence is moved around. This means that for cutting mitres on long lengths you're constantly moving supports around. I reckon a good drop saw and a triton for ripping makes a better combination. Sorry to dwell so much on on-site trade work, but that's what it's designed for and were the circumstances in which I used it.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
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