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    Default Machinery - Secondhand or New?

    I'm contemplating a purchase of a tablesaw and a jointer. After looking at numerous glossy pics and schmicko advertising, it's all become too much and my brain hurts.

    Being a bit of a traditionalist and certainly one who appreciates good old fashioned craftmanship (are you still allowed to say that in public?), I was wondering whether the flash advertising and suberbly lit photographs of numerous machines was misleading my senses somewhat. Then a wise old dickybird muttered some red-vino-garbled words of wisdom aimed entirely at older, secondhand machines.

    Fine I thought, so could the wisdom of a thousand craftsmen guide me in the right direction here? I'm up in north Queensland and could entertain the idea of three-phase motors. Question is ... throw me some brands that have a reputation for being reliable, accurate, well-made and all that.

    $1800 is the limit for each.

    Cheers & thanks in advance ........ great forum
    Smed

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    well i don't know the brands of old machines,but what i do know is that you will save about 50% or more off new prices...i have got a couple of used machines and there fine , old hafco's, , but the new ones would crap all over the old ones i have...so if i was buying used again i would look a little harder and locate the big heavy cast iron profesional machines, the ones that way 300kg, there the best, whatever brand does'nt matter, but i would do a search to see if parts are still available and who can fix them...start looking now on the internet to get an idea of what's around , what the common brands are being sold and the prices to pay...try searching 'used woodworking machinery,au' and also the trading post has a couple of regular guys who sell the heavy weights...good luck.
    Hurry, slowly

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    [QUOTE=Smed]Being a bit of a traditionalist and certainly one who appreciates good old fashioned craftmanship (are you still allowed to say that in public?), [QUOTE]

    Who gives a rats a*se? Say it anyway. Tish and pish to political correctness I say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smed
    I'm contemplating a purchase of a tablesaw and a jointer. After looking at numerous glossy pics and schmicko advertising, it's all become too much and my brain hurts.

    Being a bit of a traditionalist and certainly one who appreciates good old fashioned craftmanship (are you still allowed to say that in public?), I was wondering whether the flash advertising and suberbly lit photographs of numerous machines was misleading my senses somewhat. Then a wise old dickybird muttered some red-vino-garbled words of wisdom aimed entirely at older, secondhand machines.

    Fine I thought, so could the wisdom of a thousand craftsmen guide me in the right direction here? I'm up in north Queensland and could entertain the idea of three-phase motors. Question is ... throw me some brands that have a reputation for being reliable, accurate, well-made and all that.

    $1800 is the limit for each.

    Cheers & thanks in advance ........ great forum
    Smed
    Have a look for SCM brand products. They are industry standard machinery, I've got a 12" jointer that was 3 phase & now I've converted it to single.

    All most all 3 phase stuff is for industry so have a look at 2nd hand places around where you live (auctions). You will soon work out the most popular brands used by industry in your area. The upside is that 2nd hand 3ph stuff is way cheaper than new single ph & usually better built!
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    Smed
    Just found this in the trading post, I realise freight would kill you but it's an indication of what's available.

    Woodwork Machinery 18in Capacity rip saw with trenching blades, 18in compound docking radial arm saw, 27in throat bandsaw, all 3 phase, all solid beasts, $1000 the lot WOODFORD 02-4758 7753 or 0428-587753
    Cheers
    Jim

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    Thanks for the tips everyone..good on yer! Those old cast iron machines are beauties...like you say though, got to be able to get those spares if needed.

    Political correctness? Aparrently the security guys in Cantberra have been told not to call anyone mate anymore. Sad world.

    Cheers
    Smed

    PS. Posted a question on another topic forum, but heard nothing yet....has anyone heard of Female Spurwood? Apparently it's different from Spurwood/Spur Mahogany.

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    Re the mate business, me old mate Johny told the DH managers where to go and mate ship is again allowed at the house on the hill.

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    I'm a big fan of old, not ancient, machinery. I recently purchased an SCM 18" bandsaw for $750. The lower wheel needed re-rubbering, and it needed new guides. All in, it owes me $1,250. No bad for a BS costing well over $3k new. Parts are still available from the importer (Gabbets), although not cheap.

    Check out www.graysonline.com.au for listings of up coming auctions. Some of this stuff goes extremely cheap. I bought mine from a second hand dealer, so I guess the would've paid no more than $4 - 500 for it.

    Cheers

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