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    Hey all,

    After ruining another bandsaw blade cutting recycled timber I am looking at buying a metal detector. Carbatec have something called Merlin which sells for about $50. A few months ago I spoke to someone at Carbatec and he told me the product was crap. Have any of you bought it and are you happy with the results?

    Also, has anyone used stud detectors with metal detection capablity to successfully detect nails in timber?

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    I bought a GMC stud detector the other day but only to detect studs. I think most stud detectors like this need to be hard against the surface so that would make running them over undressed timber a real pain. The GMC also has a felt base but it was only $20 and detects pipes and electrical wires.

    I think a dedicated metal detector is what you need. I think compromising could end in another dead blade.
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    Tiger,
    Why stock a product that you consider to be sub-standard?

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    Luddite, can you have ethics in business? That's a question for another time and another thread, meanwhile I need to cut up some more redgum and I still haven't got this bandsaw blade on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger
    ... can you have ethics in business? .....

    You can & you will get customers that appreciate it too but most of them will treat you with suspision &/or think you are weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden Luddite
    Tiger,
    Why stock a product that you consider to be sub-standard?
    There is a big difference between what the boss puts in the shelves and what you opinions (as a salesperson) are on the qualityof the product.

    I know that at my last job we sold custom made "scratching combs" for beekeepings that sold for about $15 each. However I thought that they were useless pieces of cr*p and told customers to go out and buy a round fish scaler. For a cost of $2 the scalers did the job maybe even better than the "proper" tool.

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    Its been an issue for me for a while too.....metal detectors. Most of the wood I use is recycled. I'm usually fine without a detector. But, as you know, it only takes one nail doesn't it .....the rusty nails are usually fine because they reveil themselves by staining the wood, even if they've broken off with a little bit hidden inside.....but some galvanised nails.... :mad: ...ohhh, Geeez, I hate those buggers. And you can slide you jointer blades only so much before you have to resharpen, EVEN though most of the blades still ok.

    I've got the Carpatec catalog out now. And what worries me on that Merlins description is where it says....

    " Scanning depth depends on the metal type and mass " .....

    Which to me means......

    " It won't work all the time, so if you hit a nail and stuff up a blade, don't blame us "

    Bloody electonics. I'm always suspicious of the stuff, especially if its got a battery in it.

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    Guys,

    LV have the little wizard metal detector at US$16-95. I have one and it works a treat. Very reliable. You have to purchase the 9v battery separate though. See the link below.
    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...5125&cat=1,240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    I bought a GMC stud detector the other day but only to detect studs. I think most stud detectors like this need to be hard against the surface so that would make running them over undressed timber a real pain. The GMC also has a felt base but it was only $20 and detects pipes and electrical wires.
    Gumby,
    Can you let me know the model number.
    I bought another on the weekend and it says studs and only studs.

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    I got the Merlin about a year ago and it works fine for me, picks up staples too where the buggers attach labels to timber and it buries under the surface.
    Also detects live wiring in a wall AC and DC.
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    Its the old story, ya gets wot ya pays for. Mik have a woodwiz for about $200.00, so do I and it works a treat. I have to take my wedding ring off to use it because you can set it that sensitive.

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    Default The wood wiz is great

    I would like to second Termites view. I have a Wood wiz and it paid for itself in less than three months. I have even found an old nail in the centre of a new board, straight from the sawmill, with absolutely no visible entry point. By the grain pattern around the nail, and the state of the steel, I believe that the tree grew around the nail. I spoke to the miller and he said that he has hit a few nails when milling timber from the same source as my timber. He also believes that the nails were fully embedded in the tree.

    On another note, a friend of mine uses an ex army metal detector designed for finding mines with great success. He purchased it from Aussie Disposals for around one hundred dollars.

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    The problem with embedded metal is so bad that none of the mills on the Central Coast will mill what they call "Domestic Timber". That is anything grown in someones backyard.

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    A lot of mills won't take domestic timber & there are a few state forests that have been black listed too. There's one near Townsville that is full of lead 'cos during the WWII the planes used to 'test' the guns after takeoff by giving the mountain they came to a quick sqirt.
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