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    Default Multitool Vs Detail Sander

    Good Morning All

    I am about to start re-Estapolling the baltic pine woodwork in my 130 year old house - doors, windows, architraves, skirting, etc - and this will involve a tremendous amount of light sanding. My existing arsenal of sanders consists of

    * Hand sanding pads.
    * Festool 150/3 ROS with vacuum attachment.
    * Rupes half-sheet orbital sander (big 20 year old beast)
    * Triton ROS attachment for angle grinder (even bigger more aggressive beast)

    The Festool is precise enough for the flat areas and should zip through them, but is not suitable for the moldings.

    I was thinking of getting a detail sander for this job. The volume of molding sanding would justify the outlay, and I would have it for future use.

    A friend has suggested that I would get equal effectiveness for this job and more future versatility by getting a multitool plus a molding sander attachment.

    What are the pros and cons of both tools? What would you recommend? What brands and models should I consider or avoid?

    Thanks in advance for any guidance and help.

    Fair Winds

    Graeme

    PS: I was unsure whether I should post this on the Woodwork or Renovations Forums, So I posted it on both. Kind moderators, please zap one if appropriate.

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    Are you sanding to remove back to bare timber, or just to scuff the surface to make sure the new paint sticks? If it's the latter, I'd suggest some of the 3M scotchbrite* pads - not the green kitchen ones, but either the greyish ones (which are also great for tired looking stainless steel sinks) or the maroon ones. There's also an automotive compound called 'scuffing paste' which is designed to help key car paint for better adhesion that can be used in conjunction with the grey pads.

    *Ok, ok 'surface conditioning abrasives' in 3M-speak.

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    If you have a lot of sanding to do (and it sounds like it), I would get a dedicated tool for the job.

    Multifunction tools will probably do the job but you are likely to suffer after use for an extended period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Are you sanding to remove back to bare timber, or just to scuff the surface to make sure the new paint sticks? If it's the latter, I'd suggest some of the 3M scotchbrite* pads - not the green kitchen ones, but either the greyish ones (which are also great for tired looking stainless steel sinks) or the maroon ones. There's also an automotive compound called 'scuffing paste' which is designed to help key car paint for better adhesion that can be used in conjunction with the grey pads.

    *Ok, ok 'surface conditioning abrasives' in 3M-speak.

    Thanks, MS. Not sure yet. The matt Estapol is 20+ years old and is showing no signs of surface degregation or lifting. It basically seems to have soaked into the timber and sort of disappeared. Or its evaporated from the surface??? The timber is essentially in pretty good condition. Scuffing to apply a couple more coats is possibly all that is required.

    And I thought I could justify another toy. .......

    Fair Winds

    Graeme

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    Go for the multi tool you will wish you had purchased one years ago, as for durability when my Fein was stolen I replaced it with a Bosch proffesional clone of the Fein, I would have completed more than 100 hours of sanding with it and it is still purring along, plus all the fein acc. fit, ( they were kind enough to leave the box of acc. and just took the tool)

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    the tools you have are not large enough to sand your floor, I have done a floor with a Bosch PEX125, and I spent hours on my knees.

    If you are only contemplating a light sand and recoat,I suggest that you hire a POLI-VAC disc sander, an edge sander, buy some 80 & 100 Grit discs for both, and sand the floor, .

    It will take you a day with the larger machines, or week with hand tools.

    Jeff
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    Quote Originally Posted by vk4 View Post
    the tools you have are not large enough to sand your floor,
    What floor Jeff?

    Graeme is talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    - doors, windows, architraves, skirting, etc
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    Thanks Everyone.

    In the longer term, I doubt that I will have sufficient detail sanding to justify and dedicated tool, and I do not want to buy two more tools. Looks like a multitool is the best compromise.

    From above, other forums and talking around there seems to be a quality hierarchy in the following order:

    ** Fein
    ** Bosch
    ** Dremel
    ** AEG

    One friend is very vocal that the only one worth looking at is Fein, and he says that the best value for money is a Fein Starter kit plus generic accessories. Another, like China, says Bosch is the best value for money. Who's right??

    Also, what are your views on the trade-offs between corded and cordless??

    Fair Winds

    Graeme

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    I bought the blue Bosche corded multitool a few months ago. I personally won't buy a cordless machine unless there is a fighting chance I'll be using it regularly so the batteries don't get ruined; the only cordless tools I own are two drills (both Bosche) and a screwdriver (Blue Point). If I had to get a cordless one I would probably go for the Ryobi model as it's batteries can be used in other tools.... but then again I don't have any Ryobi cordless tools......

    To be honest the multitool is a compromise. The only thing it does really well is plunge cut so you can make square holes and flush trim, or get into corners. That's all I use mine for pretty much.

    There are at least two different ways of fitting blades; Ryobi, Ozito, Bosche and SOME Fein use one method; AEG, "The Renovator" and some other Fein machines use another but adaptors are available so you can pick and choose. Big W sell an adaptor to allow Renovator tools to be used on the Bosche.... for a dollar.

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    Just to clarifi; The Fein is a top quality tool and without a doubt the best multitool out there,
    I said the Bosch is best value for money app$200 vs $600, if Iwas using it in a trade situation I would buy the Fein, however for heavy duty home use the Bosch is doing just fine

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