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10th September 2011, 07:06 PM #1New Member
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Greetings all
We are building a timber framed extension to our place and the time has almost arrived for the frame building to begin.
Not a huge amount of framing as the room is one big area 10m x 7m, but I wanted to make my job easier by using a nail gun. Hiring one is about $140 a day.
I know that Paslode is the top of the class and it would be hard to go past them, but the initial outlay is rather high. My question is - has anyone had any experience with those compressor type units sold by Bunnies?
Are those compressors are up to the job of driving 85-90mm nails into trated pine?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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11th September 2011, 02:07 AM #2
Just a thought. I know some people tha buy the Paslode Framemaster from Bunnings, do a small job like yours and then put the Paslode on eBay and get $500-$550 for it, if it has been looked after and kept clean. That is about $100-$150 all up gun cost, and you could have used it for as long as you like, at your own pace.
Sounds like a bargain when you look at it like that.
I have heard of one guy that got the cheap air compressor type gun and ended up throwing it in the bin, too slow, too many misfires, would not fire a 90mm nail fully into pine. May have been a one off dud gun though.
Cheers
Pops
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11th September 2011, 10:09 AM #3
Gas guns are nice for convenience thanks to no air hose to drag around. For occasional use I'd go air powered. For the same price as a Paslode you could pick up a mid-range framer and a cheapish compressor along with air hose and fitings. You would probably get more use out of an air compressor than a gas gun once your finished building
I've got decent 12cfm compressor in the shed and a $99 GMC compressor for the occasional site job. The little GMC handles a Senco fixer and framer easy, just has to cycle more often. Still going strong after 6 years.
Paslode have an air framer for around $450.
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11th September 2011, 10:38 AM #4
buy the best you can get, with framing nailers, you get what you pay for. My brother has a scorpion 90mm gun and I have a bostitch n86 from a clearing sale, the bostitch is twice the gun the scorpion is.
Give this guy a call and he will help you. I have dealt with him for repair kits for my senco finisher and the bostitch framer and he knows what is what with these guns. The opening page on his web site has specials too for good quality guns at good prices.
One Stop Shop For Air Tool Repairs And Sales | Addems Air Tools
Hope this helps.
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16th September 2011, 11:26 AM #5New Member
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Thanks to all for your comments.
My thoughts were very much along what Pops suggested.
Mind you if the nail gun is as efficient and good as everyone says it will be very difficult to sell it once I'm done.
Jump that hurdle when I get to it. It may have to get 'lost' in the shed!!
Cheers
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16th September 2011, 12:08 PM #6
Hi Amatuer,
Well if you do get the Paslode Impulse FrameMaster from Bunnings, finish the job and then need to decide to keep or sell it, I may well like to help to make that decision.
I have been thinking of replacing my old battered Paslode with a nice new one, (the new ones are less tiresome on your hands and my old hands need a break).
So let me know if that eventuates,I too am planning some renovations down the track, shed extension, or hang on to it and put it in the shed and give it a pat every now and then, as I am sure you will be very fond of it once you have used it, I did so like my old one.
Regardless, have fun with the extension and post some progress pics in the renovating forum.
Cheers
Pops
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19th September 2011, 05:19 PM #7
Whats wrong with a hammer. ????????
For such a small job, I don't see the value in a nail gun.
Just my old fashioned thoughts.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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20th September 2011, 04:04 PM #8Senior Member
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20th September 2011, 04:18 PM #9
Hi DOCTOR WU.
I am a boat builder by trade. But really earned my income from restoring old houses and business premises.
Yep, I tried a nail gun once on a big job.
More trouble than it was worth.
Got rid of that problem.
All I use now on house construction is galvanized nails and a hammer.
The reason for using galvanized nails is 2 fold. Firstly they don't rust as fast. Second the rough texture holds better in timber.
The reason for using a hammer. ????? Thats what I had as a child 58 years ago.
The highest I have worked on a ladder is 42 feet. Rebuilding a roof.
This small job does not need a fancy new tool to add to the expense.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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20th September 2011, 04:34 PM #10Senior Member
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I wasn't asking for your resume. I'm over 60 and still working as a carpenter on construction sites, I'm also a joiner...And worked on multi-floor buildings. When I was an apprentice, the timber framing was hardwood and that was just loads of fun to nail with a hammer. Now, I'm so happy to own a nail-gun thanks. The OP is looking at a pretty small job but if he wants to knock it over quickly without additional headaches then why not make it easier on yourself. I would be more concerned about his level of experience and him thinking using a nail-gun will overcome that.
woodworm.
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20th September 2011, 04:51 PM #11
Hi DOCTORWU.
Sorry for my long winded reply.
I agree with your comment, re hard wood and I never use anything else in a reconstruction. In fact I hate PINUS CRAPPIATTA with a passion.
Your assesment of skill level is probably correct.
Perhaps that is why the job should be slowed down a little.
Paul.I FISH THEREFORE I AM.
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20th September 2011, 05:19 PM #12Senior Member
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Well, I do like hardwood but these days it should always be kiln-dried and there is no way you'll nail that without pre-drilling first.
woodworm.
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20th September 2011, 06:26 PM #13danielson
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Besides
HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOOLS WINS!!!
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20th September 2011, 08:17 PM #14Deceased
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Hi DOCTOR WU.
Hi DOCTORWU. PINUS CRAPPIATTA
HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOOLS WINS!!!
Why all the shouting in this thread ?
Peter.
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