Thread: Okay!! Thats IT!

I suppose Shane that will be the ML 392 or variants therof and well discussed in threads hereabouts. I was at PTMS Bayswater (Jet Stuff) this morning and kicked all the tyres being in a similar situation. When you consider that what you really need is a jointer and a thicknesser for under a grand thats the only machine really goes close (in reasonable width)

The other option is to purchase something like a stand alone jointer and true up your boards and then pay a pro joinery to run your stuff through the thicknesser. Perhaps you can strike a deal with a local workshop or BB member for use of machines and throw some timber and a set of knives in as payment?


I think you will be becoming good friends with a saw doctor or a sharpening machine though

No doubt you will get offers of other suggestions to alleviate your problem so I'll get in early;

Send it to ME
Send it to ME
Send it to ME


Good Luck Mate, Cheers

Going by your budget you don't have a choice other than the combo and that will only handle your 10 inch boards. A 12 inch jointer is going to cost more than $3,000 and then a decent thicknesser will set you back another $1,000 or more. I have the PT260 10 inch combo but it is made from alloy and is light duty. I have dressed very old wandoo 5 by 3 to make door frames for a Heritage home but it was a mission. The timber had to be supported both sides and it was steady as she goes. The bed is too short to let the machine true up long lengths of timber so you have to work with this. My brother in law has the ML392 and it is better than the PT260 mainly because it is cast iron.
Both machines have problems with blockages during thicknessing even though there is dust extraction connected.
There are compromises in a combo machine and given the sizes and type of timber you are trying to dress I am reluctant to recommend either machine for you. I am not saying they will not do the job but it will be one of those purchases that you will repeat in five years to get the real thing.
Trust me on this point - Squizzy is alergic to tuart so best to send it to me.

I'm not allergic to anything - SEND IT TO ME

Seriously, I only have a 6" jointer so I"m stuffed already but I've got most of the bits together to make a 40" sanding thicknesser so I imagine I will cope when I put it all together

The thicknesser was detailed in a recent AWW mag - if you are interested I could make a copy available for you as long as you don't tell anyone

Jamie

Ssshhhhh dont let on Jamie but Id really appreciate that mate!

Ive been sorta avoiding parting with this stuff even though shes been glaring at the stacks since they took up residence in her front garden ... and heck its dry now! I can use it... eerr for something!

Squzzy if you can make it down to Mandurah one day I will do a swap with whatever handy peices of timber you might have available... you know equal sized lengths of Wandoo Messmate and such would be okay Mind you Im about ready to start searching for some good Western Read Cedar or such light straight grained wood for a couple of canoes need to be 14 or so foot and will need oohh about 8 lengths 8in wide by 1in thick... you know somethin like that would be good Actually Id even go some Pauliwannia {Kiri} if on hand a couple of sheets of good ply would be cool to... then of course I will need some fibreglass and epoxy... then... :eek:

Oh an while your at it you wanna build the things for me!

Oh an also while your at it mate if youve got a spare ute sittin around Im in need of another vehicle since the mongrels out in Kal stole and burnt mine a couple of weeks ago... be prepared to shell out some readies for that though no worries

As to the thicknesser... damned if I know what I will do... Im thinkin of cuttin a couple of 3ft lengths of a board and takein it with me to the stores and givin it a trial threw a couple of machines and see which on can handle it... but I will need that ute! heavy stuff to lug up to Perth an back on shanks's pony I can tell you! :eek:

At the bottom of the Triton timber racks there is a lump of red cedar 12"X2"X 4.2m Don't you love those mixed dimensions!?! I'll swap if you pay all the freight

I'll dig out the sander plans and send em to you on a PM

Jamie

Oooh jeeeez dont yer just love it when you realiaze that the blokes on the other side of the country and hes got the lighter weight wood!!!

You makin a trip over soon Jamie? we will add it to your baggage for the flight home eh!!! Imagine the expressions on the frieght handlers faces as you lob up carryin a bloody great length of Tuart on your shoulder!!! HA!!

I will keep an eye out for it mate

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Oh an also while your at it mate if youve got a spare ute sittin around Im in need of another vehicle since the mongrels out in Kal stole and burnt mine a couple of weeks ago... be prepared to shell out some readies for that though no worries

Shane, I'll be heading through on Wednesday with a 10 tonne tipper and 2.5 tonne excavator, coming back again on Saturday...That any help?

As to the thicknesser... damned if I know what I will do... Im thinkin of cuttin a couple of 3ft lengths of a board and takein it with me to the stores and givin it a trial threw a couple of machines and see which on can handle it... but I will need that ute! heavy stuff to lug up to Perth an back on shanks's pony I can tell you! :eek:

Take it out to Timbecon one Saturday morning when they are demoing machines..that will be something to chew on.

Cheers

Wild Dingo

I would go for on of the robust 15 inch thicknessers cast iron table etc(assuming you have the space) They can be bought for about $1200. If you dont have the space consider the dewalt 735. I have had great success jointing using a router (with straight bit) and straight edge. If you go for a combo machine it will be a compromise which you may regret.

Squizz mate I said UTE!!! bloody eck an excavator?? strewth :eek: Missus would have a chocolate fit if I bought one of them let alone a flamin truck!

Re the thicknesser once the ute is sorted I will be taking it down there to try out a few... I see that timbercon have the 15in on special at present around $800 but tis not real clear if its just the 3ph one at that price or both single and 3ph model: PL 3803... will have to check it out but its no use to me if its 3ph sheds only single phase so hopefully the single phase is the same price!

Thanks fellas

Oh Matt tell me more about straigtening boards with a router, straight bit and rule mate!

Jointing using a router. Two methods possible. The one I use mostly involves clamping a straight aluminium angle onto the board at the appropriate distance back so that when running the base of the router against the angle the minimum amount of material is removed by the cutter to produce a flat square surface. The opposite side can be cut also but make sure that the two sides are parrallel by also measuring distance from first side.
Second method clamp the straight edge below and just behind the edge of the timber to be jointed. Use a router with a bearing guide that runs along the straight edge to produce the flat square result. The router base still runs along the top of the timber.
I thickness first then use this method.

These methods don't work well for narrow timber but for planks 6 inches or more wide it works well. A bit time consuming but of you don't have a jointer its great.

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Squizz mate I said UTE!!! bloody eck an excavator?? strewth :eek: Missus would have a chocolate fit if I bought one of them let alone a flamin truck!

No worries mate bout 6 oclock tomorrow morning I'll drop by and pick the lot up. The missus will love ya for gettin rid of it . Just PM me your address and I'll look after it for ya .

BTW, had a bout 5 cubes of 4 x 2 and 6 x 3 jarrah set aside at a demolition job by some mates. We went down this morning to have a look and builder had put the lot into two huge skips and sent it to the tip..dinkum. I couldn't believe it.

Cheers

Originally Posted by vsquizz

No worries mate bout 6 oclock tomorrow morning I'll drop by and pick the lot up. The missus will love ya for gettin rid of it . Just PM me your address and I'll look after it for ya .

BTW, had a bout 5 cubes of 4 x 2 and 6 x 3 jarrah set aside at a demolition job by some mates. We went down this morning to have a look and builder had put the lot into two huge skips and sent it to the tip..dinkum. I couldn't believe it.

Cheers

She would love it Id guess but me I wanna make somethin with it!... mind you Id do a swap of some of it gladly

Dont you hate it when you see that happen? bloody drives me NUTS!! which is why I have so much Tuart couldnt bare the thought of having them mulch it!!! so much wood so much waste so many to wasteful to think of us poor woodstarved woodbutchers!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Oooh jeeeez dont yer just love it when you realiaze that the blokes on the other side of the country and hes got the lighter weight wood!!!

You makin a trip over soon Jamie? we will add it to your baggage for the flight home eh!!! Imagine the expressions on the frieght handlers faces as you lob up carryin a bloody great length of Tuart on your shoulder!!! HA!!

I will keep an eye out for it mate

I'm sure the freight handlers would have the giggles after they'd unloaded the piece of cedar on the way in

Wild Dingo - not likely to be over there soon mate but my brother services little Johnnies airplane so there's always a chance

I'm with you though it's a pain when you hear of these timbers available and they are at the other end of the earth. I got the cedar from Nimbin - they'll fly anywhere with a durrie of the green stuff

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Squizz mate I said UTE!!! bloody eck an excavator?? strewth :eek: Missus would have a chocolate fit if I bought one of them let alone a flamin truck!

Re the thicknesser once the ute is sorted I will be taking it down there to try out a few... I see that timbercon have the 15in on special at present around $800 but tis not real clear if its just the 3ph one at that price or both single and 3ph model: PL 3803... will have to check it out but its no use to me if its 3ph sheds only single phase so hopefully the single phase is the same price!

Thanks fellas

Oh Matt tell me more about straigtening boards with a router, straight bit and rule mate!

So Shane have you worked a solution yet???

Cheers