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Thread: The ongoing saga of the ML392
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18th January 2007, 02:58 PM #106
I thouh I would reserect this thread to continue teh knowledge base. I know the answer is somewhere, but I can't find it.
My new AW106pt has turned up, put together, fired up and played with. As we all know thgis is the same as a ML-392, no issues there.
My query is, what is the correct order in which to square one area to another?
In my case, in thicknessing mode the timber comes out beutiful, no snipe whatsoever, and all sides parrallel and the same size. In jointer mode when setting the fence square to the table, the timber doesn't come out square. Do I adjust both tables to be square, parrallel, and perpindicular to the blades, readjust fence and carry on? O ris there another issue.
I haven't touched anything, this is all out of the box, everything is pretty close, I just need to get the jointer to square and I am one happy camper.Boring signature time again!
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18th January 2007, 07:26 PM #107
Start with the fence. It's not very good and needs readjusting each time you move it to a different part of the table top.
Otherwise, you can play with the infeed table but it's time consuming and tricky.
As long as the fence is square to the table at the cutting point, I can't see why you don't get square cuts.
Have you watched the video? It's basic but may help.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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18th January 2007, 07:59 PM #108
Ive watched the vid a few times.
I've re-read the thread.
If the tables aren't square/parrallel with the blades and you square the fence to the table you can't get a square cut.
I had a fiddle a fool and a scratch, played with the tables and have it pretty close. I don't wanna stuff it all up and get snipe, of which there is no sign of at present, regardless of what I feed it, either in terms of size or hardnessesBoring signature time again!
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18th January 2007, 09:54 PM #109
First, the blades need to be parallel to the thicknesser table. It sounds like yours are.
Then, infeed and outfeed tables and the blades all need to be parallel. If they aren't at this stage, set them by adjusting the tables. Once set, you may need to adjust the blades so that they are the correct height. In future, you shouldn't need to adjust the tables.
Throw the fence away or make a decent one, it's a woftam.
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18th January 2007, 11:06 PM #110Novice
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Greetings from Finland
Interestingly enough the global economics have already pushed into the state, where we have the same equipment everywhere. The same ML932 is sold under the brand "IKH" here in Finland, too.
There is also a brand called Bernardo (in Finland) and Holzmann (in Germany, Austria) that seem to be selling something VERY similar (but the beds are like 3 centimeters longer).
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19th January 2007, 07:36 PM #111
Thanks guys, I think we have lift off. I won't know until I feed it a rare and expensive and irreplaceable piece of fodder, but I'll worry about that then.I would love to talk to the guy with the design brief to make the fence. A wonderful interpretation of a cross between a medi-evil torture implemet, a love aid, and a practical joke.Now all I need is time to clean up a mountain of crapiata I have to make the prototype of the cabinet SWMBO has ordered.
Boring signature time again!
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19th January 2007, 07:43 PM #112
Remember not to feed too fast in jointer mode. It puts ridges in the work if you do.
I got quicker and quicker until I realised I was going too fast and that was the result. I look at the pre-set feed rate in thicknesser mode and figure that's the ideal feed rate in jointer mode.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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19th January 2007, 07:48 PM #113
Gee, this thread has been running for two years.
Is this a record? (not counting TRITFOTU of course)
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20th January 2007, 12:01 PM #114
It is interesting to note Craig that this machine, with its unique features, and interesting personal characteristics still attracts such a large number of people. the truth is, it has the ability to achieve a very good job. The tuning of it is a bit daunting, but with the help of the plastercine guru it doesn't take too long. The alternatives start in price about twice as dear as this machine.
When researching, it does simplify things when it is all together in one thread.Boring signature time again!
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20th January 2007, 12:26 PM #115
I wasn't casting aspersions on the machine, I don't think I've ever even seen one. (Well maybe at Carbatec I have).
No, I was just amazed that the thread has run for so long.
Nothing wrong with that as long as people are still getting value from it.
Good luck to all who sail in her.
Cheers
Craig
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20th January 2007, 12:43 PM #116
I never took it you were casting nastursiums mate, just validating your comments. The fact is this machine does have a following, it just needs you to follow the leader so she floats and doesn't sink.
I just had a thought, with all this boating metaphor talk, doe that make Gumby the Captain, and Alex his trusty mate?Boring signature time again!
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20th January 2007, 06:54 PM #117
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22nd January 2007, 12:17 PM #118
I for one find this thread fascinating. I don't have one of these machines, and when I do get to the point of buying one I'm positive that price will have a say in what I buy, so I might well end up with one of these. And even if I don't some of the information is applicable to them in general. I've read through the whole thread and found it all very interesting, even if there are parts that I can't follow too well.
Thanks chaps.Bob C.
Never give up.
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22nd January 2007, 03:04 PM #119
I spent a heap of time yesterday cleaning up some of the finest crapiata money didn't buy. It varied from really rough to really rough. I'm gonna use it to make a prototype of a wall cabinet. There is no way this stuff could be done by hand, well not by me. The biggest surprise s the quality of the out put. I guess I knew this machine cops a fair bit of flack, but once setup is capable of producing really outstanding results. This thread provided most of the info I needed to get things going.
Boring signature time again!
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6th February 2007, 05:30 PM #120
Ok then
after checking that the blades were level with the outfeed table and getting the infeed as close as level to the outfeed table and getting the fence square with the table(s) I run some stock through only to find them go out about quarter the way down
So I went back and checked it all again. I couldn't see anything wrong, tables level with each other, blade same level across with the outfeed....
Then I went to set up the fence and rather than just checking like within 2" from the blade I set them square and then ran the square along the full length of the fence and yup thar she blows.. both ends of the fence are warped so when i've been keeping it flush with the fence (keeping the fingers well away from moving objects) the fence has been forcing the edge to go "off"
Any suggestions (other than turfing the fence in the bin/getting a warranty return) ?
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