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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham99
    Hi there,

    As quoted by Auld Basoon in the Festool thread.
    "Yep the Domi, a systainer with a pile of domi biscuits & the four different sized cutters, plus the two stops. All up, about $1,600 (a small discount applied "

    That's where I quoted the $1600 figure from. This system I assume got him up and running.
    Thats true Graham, but dose anyone say i just got the new Triton router plus 5 extra bits and router lift for $900? No. Everything you buy has add on extras but the AFB seems to want to pump up the Domi price using those extras

    Take the Domi home for $1200 and you ARE up and running, you can use it straight away (just need to make your own tenons)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregoryq
    Jeez. I used to do the acceptance flights on aeroplanes worth anything from 9 to 90 Million. I have never once flew one away on the same day. They were all crap right out of the box.
    Well, you will insist on buying cheap junk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum
    Is the Domino overpriced at $1200? - Well I own a tool that is built like a tank with three years waranty if anything dose go wrong, its so increadably unique their is nothing else that compares to it in such a massive range of tools worldwide, produces instant accurate joinery beond my wildest dreams, is more versatile than just about anything i own for woodworking, basicly the greatest woodworking tool since sliced bread. And in TEN years will still have it and it will be doing exactly the same job with the same beautiful accuracy.
    I suspect you're right, but you can't state this with certainty. I sure hope so though (see sig line)

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    Festools are expensive and IMHO there is a price cartel but I have yet to have a problem with any of the tools I have bought and think that the Domino is one of the finest tools on the market. I bought it to do a specific task and have found that thanks to enlightened users such as Lignum and others on the Festool Forum that my initial thoughts that it was an overpriced wobbly angle grinder were way off the mark. It is remarkeably versatile and worth every penny (or Euro as I got it from Germany rather than the UK). Several friends who do woodworking for a living have said that it has transformed their business and method of production.

    I will continue to buy Festools. Not because of badge snobbery or because I have loadsamoney but because I am not a member of the,

    "Know the price of everything and the value of nothing Club"

    If you do not wish to shell out for an expensive tool then don't. It is your call and your money. But before knocking a product at least have the decency to try it and then offer an opinion based on concrete evidence rather than hearsay or bias against a particular brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patr
    Festools are expensive and IMHO there is a price cartel but I have yet to have a problem with any of the tools I have bought and think that the Domino is one of the finest tools on the market. I bought it to do a specific task and have found that thanks to enlightened users such as Lignum and others on the Festool Forum that my initial thoughts that it was an overpriced wobbly angle grinder were way off the mark. It is remarkeably versatile and worth every penny (or Euro as I got it from Germany rather than the UK). Several friends who do woodworking for a living have said that it has transformed their business and method of production.

    I will continue to buy Festools. Not because of badge snobbery or because I have loadsamoney but because I am not a member of the,

    "Know the price of everything and the value of nothing Club"

    If you do not wish to shell out for an expensive tool then don't. It is your call and your money. But before knocking a product at least have the decency to try it and then offer an opinion based on concrete evidence rather than hearsay or bias against a particular brand.

    Regards
    Pat
    Amen and Hellelujah to that!

    I'm a weekend warrior that very occasionally gets a commission from a paying customer. Is Domi worth the price to me? You Betcha! Plus, (but don't tell the Herr Doktor, please!) more!

    BTW, did you non Domi-equipped bretheren know that she cuts not just any old mortice, but nice flat bottomed ones too - see pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by patr
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    If you do not wish to shell out for an expensive tool then don't. It is your call and your money. But before knocking a product at least have the decency to try it and then offer an opinion based on concrete evidence rather than hearsay or bias against a particular brand.
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    Who are you replying to Pat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    Who are you replying to Pat?
    I think he is replying to the card carrying Members of the AFB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum
    I think he is replying to the Members of the AFB
    Anti Festool Brigade?

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    G'day,

    Any tool or piece of machinery that I can't afford at the time and that I have to wait and save so that I can buy it.
    I make things, I just take a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    Anti Festool Brigade?
    That would be my guess

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    Hi Groggy

    No one in particular, and certainly not you, but there are those who immediately default to Festool when considering overpriced tools. I respect and agree with those who qualify their views on particular tools as expensive by saying that they have never used one or seen one but to dismiss a brand or a tool without any experience of it is wrong.

    I have always said that Festools are expensive but overpriced is subjective and should be based on experience and use of the tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patr
    I have always said that Festools are expensive but overpriced is subjective and should be based on experience and use of the tool.
    Agree. It is so subjective that I think it really boils down to "are you happy after you bought it"? I know that I rarely regret buying a top of the range tool, but can reel off any number of cheap tools that failed me.

    From what I have seen of the domi, it performs the role of a chain or slot morticer which cost around $300-400 for a good (ish) one. However, where it really kicks in is with the portability, accuracy, repeatability, quality of finish and, most importantly, time saving. For those of us that value time, the other $800 could be saved in a few large jobs.

    For others, the domino could well be the most overpriced tool, it's a matter of perspective, individual experience, preference and perceptions. These threads are usually a lot of fun to read because they are doomed to disagreement from the start.

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    Judging by how revolutionary the Festool appears to be, I will buy one as soon as I can justify the expense. Just a case of when(!)

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    Now that I think of it ... the two dirt cheap sanders that I can't by sanding pads to fit.

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    Is the domino over priced??? Of course it is!!! I don't care what anyone says, I don't need to use a tool to see that there isn't $1200 worth of engineering in it. It doesn't mean I won't buy something over priced though. I bought a Oneway 2436 - talk about over priced! It's called capitalism at its best. They have a very unique tool, so they can charge what ever they want. And as anyone knows there will always be an element of society that has to have the latest and greatest now (demonstrated daily by techno gadget whores). But for the rest they'll wait till the other manufacturers produce there own version and drive the price down (significantly). In a couple years festool will be selling it for about a third the price.

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