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    Question Plumbing and my Dusty

    G'day,

    Before I ask my question I'll give the background.

    I have just bought off Matrix and a mobile base for my 16" b/saw which now means I can get the 44gal drum, that acts as a 2nd stage for my dusty, out from the corner that it sits in and actually empty it.

    So I'm redoing the plumbing for the bandsaw and getting it off the ground and running it as an arm off the plumbing that runs to my thicknesser, which finally brings me to my question.

    Off the overhead plumbing to my thicknesser I'm dropping and arm down for the b/saw using a wye. Does a wye work more effectively with the two run offs for the wye in a horizontal mode? Or does it not mater either way if it's vetical or horizontal?

    I hope this sort of makes sence, I'd take a photograph or do an illustration to illustrate it, but a. it's been a long day and b. the shed is all locked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    G'day,
    Does a wye work more effectively with the two run offs for the wye in a horizontal mode? Or does it not mater either way if it's vetical or horizontal?
    A horizontal wye (45o) and then a 90o down drop to your BS means a 135o turn for the air stream

    A vertical wye turn of 45o, means you just need another 45o turn to reach the 90o turn for a vertical drop to your BS. This should theoretically give you a very slightly better performance.

    From a practical viewpoint and having tried to measure this effect with an airflow meter, vertical or horizontal orientation won't matter much.

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    What BobL said. In theory yeah, in practice no... unless you're right of the verge the system's limits anyway.

    IMHO it makes more difference to have a short length of straight, about 3', between each change of direction to let the turbulence even out a bit before it hits the next.

    (I wish I'd listened to my own advice. )
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    RE: IMHO it makes more difference to have a short length of straight, about 3', between each change of direction to let the turbulence even out a bit before it hits the next.

    For a lowish pressure system, like a standard 1HP dusty, I could not measure the "best to have straight bit after change of direction effect" to within about a a 3% tolerance. For a higher pressure system it might be possible to detect. I must get my 2HP unit out of its box and set it up and see if I can measure this.

    BobL

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    I haven't measured mine, but my mains runs directly over the TS which hooks up through a vertical dropper to a 90° bend that's straight onto a "flat" 45° wye in the main. My BS, on the other hand, is a few feet away and the duct is a similar setup except there's a 6' straight between the wye and the 90° bend.

    Now, when ripping, I'll sometimes swap the BS/TS positions (and ducts) to give me some elbow room and it appears to me that the TS duct just isn't as effective as the "usual" BS duct, even thought it's a shorter run.

    Mind you, it could also be 'cos when I set up for a ripping session the timber is usually green... which I imagine would make a difference. Without accurate metering, it's hard to be empirical about it.
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