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Thread: What is the best sharpening jig?
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12th July 2006, 11:14 PM #76Originally Posted by NewLou
When you change the angle on ANY jig from low to high you obviously change the angle that the blade is presented to the stone.
No matter what type of jig you use, or even if you freehand, the blade will be presented to the stone at a higher angle and you will have an increased risk of the blade digging in.
Nothing to do with the jig type or manufacturer, it is pure and simple that if you sharpen a blade at a high angle, you will have a risk of it digging in to the stone.
Cheers, Jack."There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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12th July 2006, 11:14 PM #77
What makes a jig a "high angle jig"? The old eclipse style Timbecon one I have is capable of honing at the same angles as the MKII.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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12th July 2006, 11:15 PM #78
Edit and deleted, already said by Jack.
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12th July 2006, 11:15 PM #79
$26 and that's it!
Bodgy
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12th July 2006, 11:17 PM #80
Whats it matter fellas.
Just try not to #### up your stones and she'll be right......
I don't know who's saying what exactly......but if you stuff up, you really got to be blaming yourself for not preventing it....full stop I think. I mean, UNO ??????? maaaaaate ?....uno, savy ?
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12th July 2006, 11:19 PM #81Originally Posted by apricotripperI know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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12th July 2006, 11:20 PM #82
I see. You're the bloke down the pub who steps between two other blokes what's having an argument when it gets a bit heated? You know what happens to him, doncha?
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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12th July 2006, 11:24 PM #83Originally Posted by silentC
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Think I'm simply saying that when blades are honed at higher angles theres more potential for them to dig into a waterstone and that this can be an issue with the Mk2
?????????????Just Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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12th July 2006, 11:24 PM #84
Lou,
the point is that whether you hold a blade at 50 degrees by hand, the MKII jig or an el-cheapo Stanley copy then there is a high probability you will gouge out your waterstone if you push the blade. The problem is not in the holding by hand or by jig but in pushing the blade at such a high angle.
TRANSLATION:
If you hold a blade at 50 degrees, whether by hand or jig and push it over your waterstone then, in all probability, you'll gouge a big chunk out. This is called operator error and has nothing whatsoever to do with the method of holding the blade.
Summary:
By blaming the jig for your own mistake (which was caused by ignorance, but was your mistake all the same) you may be discouraging potential purchasers. It could possibly be seen as libel. I think it would be wise to reread what you have written to see what it really is that you have written as opposed to what you thought you meant. You may want to retract it, or at least apologise to Lee Valley.
Mick
nothing personal at all Lou, but this is not making you look good at all."If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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12th July 2006, 11:24 PM #85Originally Posted by silentC
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12th July 2006, 11:28 PM #86Originally Posted by martrix
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12th July 2006, 11:28 PM #87Originally Posted by NewLou
I honestly feel the Hype around the Veritas Mk2 was a load of #$%&*#*. I've managed to stuff my 10 000 grit waterstone using the Veritas which tends to dig into your waterstones when used at the higher angles."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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12th July 2006, 11:29 PM #88
M8 I don't need to retract anything. I am not saying anything that hasent been said about others tools on the forum and I'm certainly not liable...................what a load of *&%^$%(_(&.
Just Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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12th July 2006, 11:30 PM #89Originally Posted by NewLou
The fact is that you have said that it is the jigs fault, where clearly, from the opinion of some experienced members, it is not.
The gouges in your stone are your fault, be it from operator error, inexperience, or ignorance.
Obviously you need more education in sharpening blades and I think those gouges would be there regardless of what type of jig you used.
I am not a sharpening guru and am not trying to have a go at you but anyone who doesn't know what they are doing will more than likely gouge a stone when sharpening a blade at a high angle.
Not a bad way to learn though, you won't do it again!!!
Cheers, Jack"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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12th July 2006, 11:34 PM #90Originally Posted by apricotripperI know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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