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Thread: using to many amps
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6th May 2003, 05:20 PM #1
using to many amps
Not sure if this is the correct thread, but might be close.
What is too much to plug into one power outlet?
In my workshop (garage) I have only one power point, I therefore plug in the trusty double adapter. One socket now for the clothes dryer (err garage/laundry/workshop) and one for the extension cord that leads to the other side of the workshop and has a 4-point powerboard plugged into it.
Powerboard is to run
1. Triton circular saw (in workstation)
2. Vacuum cleaner
3. Plug in fluoro light
4. Spare plug for other tools (biscuit joiner, drill angle grinder and the like.
In the future (near future) comes the router in router table, and drill press, therefore I will need to swap the 4 powerboard for a 6 powerboard.
Obviously I don’t run everything at once, but want to run vacuum cleaner, Triton C Saw, fluoro light, with possibilities (to keep all well with partner) of the clothes dryer being on too.
I have a problem here don’t I ??Geoffrey
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6th May 2003, 05:43 PM #2
Geoffrey, I think you do have a problem. The clothes dryer will be the heaviest, followed by the vacuum cleaner and the Triton saw - you would be lucky to have them all on at once!
I originally paid a friendly 'lecko about $150 to get an extra piece of cabtie between the switch board and carport (about 5 metres!) and can use my 1hp dust collector, plus my big old Makita in the worktable or the vacuum cleaner and my Hitachi TR12 in the router table - not all at once, or the breaker pops.
With a 'tight' circuit you also may need to be careful of what is turned on in the house - the toaster and the dishwasher or washing machine at the same time will pop the breaker.
I eventually had three-phase hooked up to cater for the air conditioner, and now run different areas of the house from different phases - don't ask me how, the guys just came and told me it was done after they had done it. Makes a fancy-looking switch board and three rows of breakers!
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6th May 2003, 06:11 PM #3Originally posted by Johnno
....what is turned on in the house...Johnno2
If I am carefull and only have the Fluoro light, vac and Circular saw on at once, all will be OK right - I did hear Geoge L say that on start up, the circular saw can draw a lot of power.
If the dryer accidently went on at the same time, what will be the result. A breaker clicking over, or a call to the fire brigade?
ThankyouGeoffrey
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6th May 2003, 06:25 PM #4Intermediate Member
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It should only trip the cicuit breaker if the switch is overloaded.
I have the shed hooked up to 15amps not 10 like the rest of the house. All up i have 4 x 4 foot fluros and 3 x 2 foot fluros in the shed and can run the power saw and dust extractor at the same time with no probs.
I also have rewired the shed so that there are no powerboards used, i have 6 seperate double powerpoints so that each machine/tool has its own powerpoint/switch
Of course every handyman should have a good quility fire extinguisher
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6th May 2003, 06:25 PM #5
Geoff - It aint all that hard to fit a 4 outlet powerpoint ware the single one is. By doin tis yous can have a point for the dryer and 3 stenshin cords with a 6 or even 8 outlet power bord on each. Then yous can run lots and lots ov stuff and if its too much the lil red swich'll pop out and turn off the power.
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6th May 2003, 06:31 PM #6
Geoffrey, you have to develop a 'start up routine'. Make sure that you, for instance, can't switch the vac and the saw on together - switch the vac on first, then switch on the saw. Always make sure that these are controlled by separate switches and you should generally be safe. You may need to get a safety check done on running the clothes dryer together with any of the others. If your house wiring is old, you don't know what is going on behind the wallboard, and better safe than sorry!
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6th May 2003, 06:46 PM #7
Great info - thanks Johnno
Geoffrey
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6th May 2003, 06:46 PM #8
Tyrone, I'm curious. To what are all those double sockets connected? Did you wire them in yourself? Does your Insurance Company know? The power company may love you, but the insurance people will be most unhappy if there is a fire and you don't have the proper paper work!
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6th May 2003, 07:11 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Its legit I have a mate who is a sparky so it just cost me for the parts. I dont use any more power than i would have otherwise i just wanted each machine to have its own point where it could be turned off. I like the neatness and not having to unplug/plug things all the time.
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6th May 2003, 07:46 PM #10Intermediate Member
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btw it would be interesting to know how many people do home electrical renovations, what with bunnies and co. selling everything electrical and home renovations being so popular.
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6th May 2003, 09:41 PM #11Banned
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I do some things electrical and also plumbing, but only up to a point. As they say -"a man has to know his limitations". I stay away from gas fitting, and the electrics switchboard, but power points and light fittings are relatively straightforward. Having said that,I got an electrician in to do my shop, because I wanted 20amp and safety switches.
Geoff,
You are almost certainly pushing the boundaries, and you really should avoid power boards if you can. I have one on my bench for drill battery chargers, but nothing else.
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7th May 2003, 09:30 PM #12
Geoffrey,a small investment but perhaps one that should be considered is a Clipsal Bodyguard Portable Residual current device which has four power outlets.
They are available in a range of amperage capacity...mine is a 15 amp one that I use for the Combination Unit and the Dust Extractor.
They are available in the 10 amp range and offer up a modicum of protection.
I have a hard wired Residual Current Device required by law in W.A. on any new houses or buildings and that caters for all the GPO outlets with which I use my power hand tools.
It is at this point that you may well be asking yourself that "Am I taking my expectations too far?" well in short ,yes you're compromising the available outlets in your draw capacity so the question arises of "what now?"
You have to ask yourself where your expected needs apply and spend to ensure your safety and requirements.
Just some views.
CheersJohnno
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