Thread: Which One!!!

Originally Posted by Suresh

Have a look at the Leda, I bought one several months ago and am very happy with it.
Especially as I don’t have to deal with Carbatec Melbourne, that was worth it in itself. As well this saw appears to have the best safety features of this range of saws, a riving knife that rises and falls with the blade and an overhead safety guard.
Suresh

Hi Suresh

Which model did your buy from Leda?

Cheers Brenton

I got the TC12 without the sliding table. If I want that I can add that later.
http://www.ledamachinery.com.au/cgi-...roducts_id=108
Suresh

That saw looks like it has the same splitter/guard set up as the TSC-10HB. Was the overhead guard and riving knife an option?

You can buy an after-market overhead guard for any saw. The riving knife is a problem, haven't seen an after-market one that will fit my saw. However, I mostly use zero-clearance inserts and you can make one with a splitter on it. I fit the splitter and guard whenever I'm ripping.

Issue 45 - the latest - has a pretty thorough set of reviews on 10 inch saws.

They cover:

Sherwood TS250
Jet JWSS-10LFR
Scheppach TS2500ci
HolzProfl FP1200

The reviews are pretty objective and may provide a good starting point.

Originally Posted by Suresh

I got the TC12 without the sliding table. If I want that I can add that later.
http://www.ledamachinery.com.au/cgi-...roducts_id=108
Suresh

Suresh - what other options did you get or could you get for the TC12 eg., scribing blade?

Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated.

Brenton

The overhead gaurd was part of the machine, there are other accessories that you can get: scribing blade, sliding table etc. Worth giving Roy Green, the distributer for Leda in Victoria a ring.
I bought this machine because I did not want to upgrade again. I felt that it was better value to buy a machine that I would not feel was underpowered, have too small a depth of cut etc. and have to change in a few years again.
The biggest reason for getting this machine was the safety, it is the only one in this price range that was acceptable to Worksafe, none of the other machines on your list meet their standards, or so I beleive.
Give Roy a ring: 03 93991963. I have found him very helpful and knowledgeable but at the same time not pushy.
Suresh

The overhead gaurd was part of the machine

The picture behind the link you posted has a guard fitted to the splitter, same as the Carbatec TSC-10HB. The splitter tilts with the blade but is at a fixed height. Is your guard/splitter setup different to what is pictured on the Leda site?

Ernknot,
It might be worth asking yourself whether you really need a sliding table. Unless you need to deal with large panels, a crosscut sled, which you can make in an afternoon for about $40 worth of materials, will do most of what a sliding table can do. Admittedly, you ideally need three crosscut sleds, one for regular crosscutting, one for 45° cuts, and one for use with a dado set. Even so, a lot cheaper than buying a sliding table.

Rocker

That was an excellent point Rocker, that was one of the advantages of the large Leda. The large table surface meant that I could make a large sliding table sled, now that made an even bigger difference to safety. Now my fingers are now where near the blade, I know exactly where the cut is, I can secure my workpeice on the sled and keep myself safe and intact.
Suresh

Yes but is your guard/splitter setup different to what is pictured on the Leda site?

Sorry Silent,
Yes it is different. The riving knife rises and falls with the blade, not attached to the table. The overhead gaurd is suspended from an arm and easy to move out of the way when needed, it is a Suva gaurd
Suresh

Originally Posted by AlexS

Usually it's not much of a problem, but if you are cutting slots or kerfing on it you need to remove the splitter & guard. It's not a big deal (3 bolts) and if you plan your work you can do all your cutting then all your slotting.

Brenton
The above quote from Alexs's post gives you the answer. If one plans your work like a headless chook it is a problem ( both the fixed riving knife and your planning ) however if you just put a bit of thought in your sequences then it is not. Only need to remove it when trenching really. The 10 HB has a large table and I have filled the right hand side next to the table wing inbetween the front and back fence with some MDF, similar to the Delta Unisaw picture in the CT cattledog. That brings me to the point of quality and price. The Delta Unisaw costs around $2750 which is a TSC-10HB with a slightly thicker fence rail and a plastic cover on the right as opposed to metal. Merely cosmetic changes but the finnish etc of the 10 HB equals it any day with a price tag of $1495.............
I try and buy the best I can afford and at half the price of the Unisaw I reckon the 10HB is incredible value. BTW my saw table is absolutely flat, accross the top and accross the wings, was square to the mitre guage slot straight out the box and the pointer that shows the degrees of tilt was spot on as well. All that out the box...........good quality and value in my book. The 3 hp motor has more grunt than one can use on a 10" blade, it drew maks 9.4 amps on start and a whisker over 4 amps running no load. The brake that cuts in to slow the blade on switching off is great. A Suva guard system and also a sliding table is optional extras. I havn't bought either and I find that my 1 hp Dusty is doing a good job of clearing the chips, will really be good once its hooked up to my cyclone. I use a CMT 24 T ripping blade or the CMT 80T fine cut off blade for everyday use of mixed ripping and crosscutting. Both these blades have laser cut expansion slots for heat and Whisper Quiet Operation. Basically the only noise is the motor noise ( very low ) and when the teeth cut the timber..........surely doesn't sound like a police siren. The saw weighs 170 Kg and has a 3 drivebelt system which guarrantees no vibration during use.
My conclusion: An excellent saw of good quality, safe to use ( as safe as any saw can be ) accurate and priced to suit a tight budget. This must definately be the best saw deal available in Australia at present.

Sorry about the long winded reply, a review of the TSC-10HB I guess, but when using exceptional gear like this one cannot help but sing it's praises. Just had a look in the CT Perth Christmas Special, they offer the saw with a free 48T CMT blade for $1495!

Originally Posted by Suresh

Sorry Silent,
Yes it is different. The riving knife rises and falls with the blade, not attached to the table. The overhead gaurd is suspended from an arm and easy to move out of the way when needed, it is a Suva gaurd
Suresh

Thanks Suresh. Reason I was asking is that I want to get a riving knife for mine and I thought if they can fit one to yours, and it looks similar to mine, I might be able to get one. The saw carriage on the Leda might be designed to take one, I'm fairly certain that the carriage on the TSC-10HB is not and it would need some modification.