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  1. #1
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    Angry Woodcraft Horizontal Wetstone Grinder is POS

    I just ordered and returned the Horizontal Wetstone Grinder by Woodcraft. It is a piece of cr*p. The knife guide won't permit you to sharpen the edge of an ordinary kitchen knife. I also tried it on a chisel and found my chisel duller after I sharpened it than it was when I started.

    Please, save your money.

    Now, I have to say the Woodcraft was excellent about accepting return of this item. No questions asked and they have promised to refund even the shipping cost. That is a great service and I must praise them for it.

    That said, please don't waste your time with this product. I guess I will just have to keep looking for something that will sharpen my knives and chisels easily.

    Does anyone have something that works?

    Vern

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    Just a bench grinder mate. Super cheap auto 8" one be fine.

    Trick is to buy a seperate white 8" ALO wheel ( $30 bucks) instead of the grey crap ones.

    Get a dressing stick or a T-bar.

    You won't look back. You'll find you'll be able to grind for a lot longer before water dips with a frequently dressed white wheel.

    And a buffing wheel to back up.

    You don't need slow grinding setups etc. Really just not necessary.

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    Unhappy Grinder Woes

    Vern & Jake
    Do a search for grinder gadget which I made for use here. There are a lot of good ideas on this forum.

    Have a nice new year

    Regards Mike.
    Last edited by MICKYG; 4th January 2007 at 08:27 AM. Reason: error

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    Hi Vernon,

    As this is an Australian forum, it's unlikely we'll buy one, unless it runs on 240V and has a $5- shipping charge and complies to local standard.

    Having said this, you can sharpen most small (less than 3" wide,) edge tools on a bench grinder. Don't force it, just slide it across the face of the stone as though you're taking a shaving off the surface of the stone. It sharpens quicklyand easily. There's a lot of talk about slow speed vs fast grinder speeds.

    Any of them are fine - don't waste money on the hype.

    You can either use a white wheel or a well dressed grey wheel to sharpen.

    http://www.planemaker.com/articles/grinding2.html

    Cheers,

    eddie

    edit: a link for Jake D as well:
    http://www.planemaker.com/articles/

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    Thanks Eddie for that link. Learn't something in there that may help the idea I'm working on. Thinking maybe I should call Bill Clark & Larry Williams. Know they'd like the idea. And they've got the skills to make it straight off.

    As for the grinding link. I agree with the important things that were said. uno...things like.

    - smaller engine housing than the wheel itself, so your tool has more room to move. In fact, the best setup I feel is a workhead and pulley off a motor. No engine housing.
    - high speeds fine.
    - keep it well dressed.

    The only little differences I have are...

    -Still think the white wheels a definete improvement over the grey. Found you develop a better feel for a white wheel. Just got a little bit more time to react to heat build up and pull back. I just don't burn blades off a white wheel. Even the smallest ones.

    I've got about 1/2 a dozern grey ones floating about the shed if you want em.

    - Also, personally, I think one should use a diamond stick dresser in a jig that squares the wheel perfectly. Don't need it shore....but you'll find with it nearly perfectly square all the time your initial shaping of the blade is more consistant (uno, say taking a chisel in to square off past nicks etc)

    - Also don't like traditional tool rests. They limit visability. I have a high one for when grinding wide blades off jigs, but never anything around and in front of the wheel like you get in normal tool rests.

    Thats because the rest gets in the way when grinding freehand. You just can't sight the very edge of the blade well when grinding profile blades off a traditional tool rest.

    Believe if you want to have a rest, don't have a tool rest, have a hand rest, positioned down lower, so you can pinch the blade in the best jig you've got (your fingers) and dampen the shakes from your body through the hand rest.

    Also believe you should remove the grinder guards (the things bolted around the wheels)....they just get in the way. They kill access to a very powerful grinding method - > off the side of the wheel.

    Mount the grinder off the walls best I feel around shoulder height....get your eye in closer

    Ummm ... can't think of anything else. hang on.

    I started a thread on it. Might be something in there to help
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...d=1#post379577
    Freehand stuff though. No pictures of the high tool rest in there and how I jig blades, which I thinks important. I don't mind getting a picture if interested. Its just another opinion. But might give you some ideas. Everybodys an expert though .

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    Cartatec sell a slow rpm 8" grinder with one white and one grey wheel. Runs at 1450 rpm - great for sharpening. $160 when I bought one.

    jas
    "... it is better to succeed in originality than to fail in imitation" (Herman Melville's letters)

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