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    I just got delivery of it today and put it together. I just have a question from those that bought one and that is did you also get two extra parts with it that didn't seem to be needed? Perhaps they are spares? I found no mention of them in the manual which was surprisingly good being a chinese make. For one I know exactly what it is. It's the starter rope reel mechanism but the other one I have no idea. Pics below

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    The part on the left is the starter rope reel but the thing on the right I have no idea. It's threaded if that helps. Two images are included showing each side of the part (top and bottom) that I have no idea about. The black washer is infact steel and not rubber. I forgot to turn the starter rope reel over but since I already know what it is I wasn't going to waste time retaking the shot. If anyone can help me identify it I'd much appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna View Post
    I have exactly the same attitude.

    When its kaput its a right hand and left shoulder job
    I bought quite a few bummer saws as I call them , I originally got one for the step son , then some of me mates wanted a cheap saw , they all had the same idea , a couple of loads of firewood and its paid for , if the saw buggers up after that who cares , most people want a good saw but cant afford one , so they get an elcheapo , the only thing I found , is that they needed a tuneup after about a tank of juice , which took me a whole of five minutes with a tacho , since then , all the saws are going strong . Cheers MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I just got delivery of it today and put it together. I just have a question from those that bought one and that is did you also get two extra parts with it that didn't seem to be needed? Perhaps they are spares? I found no mention of them in the manual which was surprisingly good being a chinese make. For one I know exactly what it is. It's the starter rope reel mechanism but the other one I have no idea. Pics below

    Attachment 107081

    Attachment 107082

    The part on the left is the starter rope reel but the thing on the right I have no idea. It's threaded if that helps. Two images are included showing each side of the part (top and bottom) that I have no idea about. The black washer is infact steel and not rubber. I forgot to turn the starter rope reel over but since I already know what it is I wasn't going to waste time retaking the shot. If anyone can help me identify it I'd much appreciate it.

    Cheers
    Yeah, I got those 2 parts too. They may be the parts for the sprocket but I have absolutely no idea how they fit onto the chainsaw.

    I'm a bummer with chainsaw. After assembling all the parts together, filled the tanks with engine oil and motor oil and I thought I'd be laughing to start the motor. No luck. I flicked the switch to on (1, 0 to stop) with full choke and pull the chord a few time. It didn't start.

    I then turned the switch off, no choke and pulled 8-10 times, then opened it to full choke and on the switch according to what one web article say, didn't purr a bit. It just made the dull brrrrr sound and then stopped. Tried also all sorts of combinations but none worked.

    I'm at wits end. Can anyone shed some ligjt on how to start this gugger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heartysandy View Post
    . . . . . After assembling all the parts together, filled the tanks with engine oil and motor oil and I thought I'd be laughing to start the motor.
    You did WHAT?

    If this is what you really did no wonder it won't start!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    You did WHAT?

    If this is what you really did no wonder it won't start!
    I had short-cut my message that's why it didn't sound out right.

    Filled the compartment for chainsaw oil with SAE#30 and the other compartment which has the gas pump icon with 25-1 mix of gasoline and motor oil. The manual says to fill it with a 20-1 mix initially. Does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heartysandy View Post
    I had short-cut my message that's why it didn't sound out right.

    Filled the compartment for chainsaw oil with SAE#30 and the other compartment which has the gas pump icon with 25-1 mix of gasoline and motor oil. The manual says to fill it with a 20-1 mix initially. Does it matter?
    Motor oil in the 2 stroke mix still sounds wrong. You should be using proper 2 stroke lube not motor oil. Did you mix the mix before putting it in the tank?

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    The manual actually says, "Mix a regular gasoline (leaded or unleaded, alcohol-free) and a quality-proven motor oil for air cooled 2 cycle engines"
    Easy to mistake if you are new to chainsaws.
    I also received the 2 plastic spare parts. No idea what the second one is, but I can say you are going to need more than 1 spare starter sprocket. Before the end of my first tank of fuel I had stripped the plastic teeth off the first one I had, and now that I have gone through about 5 tanks more, I saw that the teeth on the replacement are almost gone. I contacted the seller and they sent me a complete side cover, starter mechanism and all. I did notice that moulded into the inside of the cover was "Partner". Maybe this could suggest a source of better quality spares.
    The air filter setup looks like it was designed by someone who had seen one, but didn't understand its workings. In effect, its just a hollow box with gauze panels. It doesn't seal to the carby, nor does it filter the fine dust out.
    I bought it because I didn't want to carry my good saws around in the toolbox on the ute all day. I just needed something basic to clear trees from the tracks and dock up a bit of firewood if I had room on the back of the ute before heading home. I'm still not happy with it, but it will do until I can find a second hand Stihl or Husky at a good price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravvin71 View Post
    The manual actually says, "Mix a regular gasoline (leaded or unleaded, alcohol-free) and a quality-proven motor oil for air cooled 2 cycle engines"
    Easy to mistake if you are new to chainsaws.
    I also received the 2 plastic spare parts. No idea what the second one is, but I can say you are going to need more than 1 spare starter sprocket. Before the end of my first tank of fuel I had stripped the plastic teeth off the first one I had, and now that I have gone through about 5 tanks more, I saw that the teeth on the replacement are almost gone. I contacted the seller and they sent me a complete side cover, starter mechanism and all. I did notice that moulded into the inside of the cover was "Partner". Maybe this could suggest a source of better quality spares.
    The air filter setup looks like it was designed by someone who had seen one, but didn't understand its workings. In effect, its just a hollow box with gauze panels. It doesn't seal to the carby, nor does it filter the fine dust out.
    I bought it because I didn't want to carry my good saws around in the toolbox on the ute all day. I just needed something basic to clear trees from the tracks and dock up a bit of firewood if I had room on the back of the ute before heading home. I'm still not happy with it, but it will do until I can find a second hand Stihl or Husky at a good price.
    Depressing - maybe you should have spent your dough on a dedicated ally or steel box to transport one of your good saws in?

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    i think the crunch comes when you travel for some wood,and the saw wont cut /or start , and the trip is wasted. doesnt take much to make uop the cost of a quality saw . got an ecko from the usa posted for 30percent cheaper than local dealers .and no problems for last 3 years , parts are available , and apart from chains and spark plug no probs . peace of mind and getting on with the job is worth the difference to me . some of the locals with the ebay saws are happy ,most are not . cheers bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsreturn2003 View Post
    i think the crunch comes when you travel for some wood,and the saw wont cut /or start , and the trip is wasted. doesnt take much to make uop the cost of a quality saw .
    Yep I agree. Internal combustion engines are a bit fiddly to begin with. Implement them into 3rd rate quality tools makes them even more susceptible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsreturn2003 View Post
    i think the crunch comes when you travel for some wood,and the saw wont cut /or start , and the trip is wasted. doesnt take much to make uop the cost of a quality saw
    If you are worried why not start the chainsaw before leaving to make sure it's up and ready to work after sitting idle for weeks/months. It's what I'd be doing regardless of whether I owned a cheapy or husky/stihl. Save yourself the trip. Learnt that when after a 3hr drive out my stihl brushcutter wouldn't start no matter what wasting my entire day (6+2hrs of fiddling). Any tool can break down. It's just a good habit to get into before heading out to do some remote work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I just got delivery of it today and put it together. I just have a question from those that bought one and that is did you also get two extra parts with it that didn't seem to be needed? Perhaps they are spares? I found no mention of them in the manual which was surprisingly good being a chinese make. For one I know exactly what it is. It's the starter rope reel mechanism but the other one I have no idea. Pics below

    Attachment 107081

    Attachment 107082

    The part on the left is the starter rope reel but the thing on the right I have no idea. It's threaded if that helps. Two images are included showing each side of the part (top and bottom) that I have no idea about. The black washer is infact steel and not rubber. I forgot to turn the starter rope reel over but since I already know what it is I wasn't going to waste time retaking the shot. If anyone can help me identify it I'd much appreciate it.

    Cheers
    The other bit that's a mystery to you, fits motor side of the drive sprocket, I haven't pulled mine apart that far but I'll willing to guess its the drive for the oil pump

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    If you are worried why not start the chainsaw before leaving to make sure it's up and ready to work after sitting idle for weeks/months. It's what I'd be doing regardless of whether I owned a cheapy or husky/stihl. Save yourself the trip. Learnt that when after a 3hr drive out my stihl brushcutter wouldn't start no matter what wasting my entire day (6+2hrs of fiddling). Any tool can break down. It's just a good habit to get into before heading out to do some remote work.
    Good point. Mate of mine had a boat that we towed 500 km to his secret fishing spot and then it wouldn't start - "when was the last time you started it", I asked, "Oh, bout 12 months ago" he says! Spent 2 days trying to get it running and then gave up and a week later he towed it back to Perth! I never went fishing with him again.

    My problem is inner city neighbors don't like extensive chainsaw testing so I have to take mine to the milling yard - but there, if anything goes wrong I have access to a full workshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Caddaye View Post
    The other bit that's a mystery to you, fits motor side of the drive sprocket, I haven't pulled mine apart that far but I'll willing to guess its the drive for the oil pump
    Cheers thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I just got delivery of it today and put it together. I just have a question from those that bought one and that is did you also get two extra parts with it that didn't seem to be needed? Perhaps they are spares? I found no mention of them in the manual which was surprisingly good being a chinese make. For one I know exactly what it is. It's the starter rope reel mechanism but the other one I have no idea. Pics below

    Attachment 107081

    Attachment 107082

    The part on the left is the starter rope reel but the thing on the right I have no idea. It's threaded if that helps. Two images are included showing each side of the part (top and bottom) that I have no idea about. The black washer is infact steel and not rubber. I forgot to turn the starter rope reel over but since I already know what it is I wasn't going to waste time retaking the shot. If anyone can help me identify it I'd much appreciate it.

    Cheers
    I can't comment on the part in question, but I'd like to make comment on a problem I've had with the rope-reel.

    Since the rope reel part is included as a spare, you have to assume that it going to fail, and mine has indeed failed, along with the plastic engagement points mounted in the fly-wheel (which isn't included as a spare) after only four tanks of fuel. And this has occured within the 90 day warranty period.
    And do you think I want to spend $80+ in transport costs for a replacement?

    The fly-wheel fix isn't user-friendly job. Removing the rope-reel isn't hard, but accessing (and removing!) the fly-wheel the rope-reel catches onto is a bitch!

    You have to remove the fly wheel, and I've re-profiled the "dogs" (?) on it, then replaced the fly- and rope-wheels and so far it seems to be working.

    Now I'm looking to buy some more parts, but I can't find the "extensive catalog" the supplier advertises.

    Any thoughts / comments?

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