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    Montiee, this thread has changed it's directiom somewhat since it started. We have moved away from Baumr saws (ever so slightly) to learning about how stuff works. When I started playing with motor cars at the tender age of perhaps 10 in our next-door neighbour's garage I learned about how things worked on things that came out of the Austin/Rootes Group factories. I owned and fixed a lot of Austins, Wolseys and Rileys in my younger years and they were fun. I then gravitated to Land Rovers and they were slightly less fun but I was still learning. I now own a Toyota and can still change the oil and I think there are sparkplugs in there somewhere.
    One's finances dictate one's purchases. My first and last credit card was "publically executed" by a bank manager over 30 years ago (cut in half in front of about 20 people at the counter in an attempt to embarrass me. I shook his hand and thanked him profusely for helping me. That buggered him!!!!!) and I havn't asked for another one yet).
    Over the years I have found thar the cheaper no-name brands can work just as well as the top shelf big brand gear. The principle of operation is the same, no matter what te price is (except, perhaps for the twin cylinder, horizontally opposed Echo saw that came out many moons ago or the twin cylinder Victa mower motor) but that is a minor deviation from the norm.
    The only problem I have with the el-cheapo gear is that they seem to arrive with a loud fanfare and then fade quietly into the sunset when the importer goes broke (GMC) or runs out of the stock he bought cheap from that factory in wherever so he fades interstate and starts selling something else.
    It doesn't matter what you learn on. I totally agree with that and support learning on anything, just keep learning as long as you live!!! It keeps you alive and thinking which beats Alzhimer's any time! Just learn on something that will keep going for a few years and don't waste your money on something that you can't get parts for later on.
    Keep learning and solving problems old mate, it's good fer ya!
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    This thread has certainly changed direction, I have already said my bit so not going any further on my original reply.
    Why are some of you trying to publicly execute someone that has a cheap saw ?
    You pricks should grow up a bit and remember that not everyone has the money to spend on expensive saws or have a publicly funded fully equipped workshop to repair brand name saws.

    Laurie
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    Yes I bought a Baumer 62cc saw in 2006....

    Worked great from day one for twelve months then the return spring on the pull cord broke. It was actually both the plastic part that it fits to shaft and the coil spring.

    Visited three chainsaw repairers that just laughed at me. (nice one)

    Contacted the ebay store with photos of the broken parts and they sold me a complete bolt on starter cord unit. Two minute job ! So now I dont pull so hard to start it....

    Otherwise the unit works fine for me.

    Leaks the bar oil out of the side when i dont use it so only put whats needed in each time.

    Engine starts, runs and sounds great will outlast the case imo.

    Hope this helps

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawchain View Post
    You pricks should grow up a bit and remember that not everyone has the money to spend on expensive saws or have a publicly funded fully equipped workshop to repair brand name saws.
    I assume that's a veiled reference to me so I feel like I have to respond.

    Firstly, it is not essential to have access to a fully equipped workshop to perform repairs or even rebuild brand name saw. That's the beauty of chainsaws and small motor bikes that just about all the repairs can be performed in a home workshop. And just because I happen to have access to a publicly funded fully equipped workshop doesn't mean I use it to repair my saws - all my saw repairs are actually done at home. FWIW I also where possible have used the publicly funded facilities at my work to share results such chain hardness testing etc on this and other forums.

    Next I have not criticised anyone for buying/owning cheap tools in general, I have a plenty of these in my shed. In my first post in this thread I wrote, "I am all for cheap small chain saws because that means I will have an endless free supply of them. People find out I like fiddling with chain saws and end up giving them to me, usually because they cannot get them started or are in need of a minor repairs." I usually give them away to friends or family but I keep a few in my shed to loan out or do a bit of pruning with.

    But, the discussion certainly has moved on. What I have criticised is;
    - claims that learning how to adjust the chain and tweaking the carbs is "knowing the ins and outs of a saw". In my book that's equivalent to learning how to change a tyre and tweaking the carb on a 60's holden.
    - claims that learning to repair a cheap new tool is a good reason for buying a cheap tool, when at the end of any repair it's still a cheap tool. In my opinion if you want to learn about a tool, buying a quality used tool and learning on that is a better way to go because when it is finally repaired the tool is worth it. I agree it is possible to learn useful stuff from repairing a cheap tool but why bother? I don't know anyone (including me) that buys a cheap angle grinder to learn about angle grinders, if it dies they don't study it's entrails, it goes in the bin and they buy another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I just got delivery of it today and put it together. I just have a question from those that bought one and that is did you also get two extra parts with it that didn't seem to be needed? Perhaps they are spares? I found no mention of them in the manual which was surprisingly good being a chinese make. For one I know exactly what it is. It's the starter rope reel mechanism but the other one I have no idea. Pics below

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    The part on the left is the starter rope reel but the thing on the right I have no idea. It's threaded if that helps. Two images are included showing each side of the part (top and bottom) that I have no idea about. The black washer is infact steel and not rubber. I forgot to turn the starter rope reel over but since I already know what it is I wasn't going to waste time retaking the shot. If anyone can help me identify it I'd much appreciate it.

    Cheers
    Think you will find it is a spare worm drive which was the problem
    with my machine (see earlier response in this thread).

    I would question why they would include it with the original chain
    saw deal, unless of course they recognize that most were faulty
    anyway.

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    G'day Friends,
    I am looking to purchase a pole saw off ebay . There are 3 brands all 33cc units.I was wondering if anyone has any useful feedback on these or similar.
    I just purchased a Baumr chainsaw with a 22'' bar. Waiting on delivery. Happy to give it a go, only cost $115.00 delivered.
    I was originally going to purchase a chain saw, pole saw, ride on(Husqvana products) from the local distributor.(total cost $5500.00)
    I would appreciate any feedback, thanks lozzak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozzak View Post
    G'day Friends,
    I am looking to purchase a pole saw off ebay . There are 3 brands all 33cc units.I was wondering if anyone has any useful feedback on these or similar.
    I just purchased a Baumr chainsaw with a 22'' bar. Waiting on delivery. Happy to give it a go, only cost $115.00 delivered.
    I was originally going to purchase a chain saw, pole saw, ride on(Husqvana products) from the local distributor.(total cost $5500.00)
    I would appreciate any feedback, thanks lozzak.
    Hey - I wanna see the ride on chainsaw and pole saw when you get em!.

    Something like this?

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    From ebay i bought a zomax? established brand ,err no. works well for the last year bought to trim a tree ,still running well ,its a copy of a shidaiwa,looks it any way . for my chain saws when i do a timber run its nice to have huskys shindaiwas wich along with my echo rarely give trouble . i do start them before i go ! though after 6-8 hrs on the qld tracks, sorry roads you need to pack them well .so the chains dont rub etc I started out 30 years ago with second hand junk ,and spent a lot of time money& effort to fix them . perhaps small engines are not my forte!~must say if you look after them they will probably last 20 years or more the local lads had mixed results with cheaper saws ,some good most not . I just dont need a tool that is not working well ,or needs fixing . happy safe cutting Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsreturn2003 View Post
    I started out 30 years ago with second hand junk ,and spent a lot of time money& effort to fix them . perhaps small engines are not my forte!
    30 years ago there were plenty of things still being made by hand. This led to quality control issues like nothing so yes buying something cheap meant problems usually. Even expensive stuff wasn't all that great. These days pretty much EVERYTHING is mass produced and sharing elements or made by the same factory with the same machines just using a different mold etc. The time spent making a husky engine wouldn't be any different to the time spent making a chinese clone and tolerances would be similar since most of it is automated unlike 30 years ago. No point buying old junk now when you can pay a fraction and get something new which performs just as well if not better.

    Anyway as I wrote in another thread the baumr performed exceptionally well. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. Job being quoted to fell the two trees was ~$450 cheapest and that didn't include cutting it up for firewood. After doing the job the figure quoted seemed like a rip off. Took all of 30 minutes to fell the two. :lol:. Had a little trouble starting the motor but that was because I didn't have the technique right. Once I read the manual all was fine. No need to adjust anything. Performed for 2 straight days cutting up two dried hardwood trees and didn't miss a beat.

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    i have 2 of these ebay Baumer 62cc saw as i started a small fire wood business with my 13 yr old son and wasnt sure if he would keep it up so dint want to pay a couple grand on some good stuff. the only problem i have had (apart from the oil leak) is the roller tip bars keep failing.
    anyway my son stayed keen and i wanted a bigger saw but still didnt want to pay big $ so i bought a Makita. 30" bar and 90cc with 2 yr warranty and i couldnt be happier .
    the Baumer go along as spares or using in the crowns where the Makita is a bit big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Guy View Post
    i have 2 of these ebay Baumer 62cc saw as i started a small fire wood business with my 13 yr old son and wasnt sure if he would keep it up so dint want to pay a couple grand on some good stuff. the only problem i have had (apart from the oil leak) is the roller tip bars keep failing.
    anyway my son stayed keen and i wanted a bigger saw but still didnt want to pay big $ so i bought a Makita. 30" bar and 90cc with 2 yr warranty and i couldnt be happier .
    the Baumer go along as spares or using in the crowns where the Makita is a bit big.

    The makita is actually made by sachs dolmar. These have a good, not as good as stihl or husky, but good nonetheless reputation. I do not know if it is possible with the baumr but I have seen it advertised that some of these cheapshite ebay saws are acctually available with carlton or oregon bars might be worth looking into, may also be able to run bit better quality chain also.

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    I got mine for $98 delivered and I ve used 5 litres if fuel cut down an blocked 4 good sized Iron Barks
    Its not a stil or husky but then its not ment to be. These days all power tools are ment to be consumerbles. And as there arnt any Aussie saws that I know of I ll always grab a bargin (unless I can find a tuboed Jonserd)

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsposs View Post
    I got mine for $98 delivered and I ve used 5 litres if fuel cut down an blocked 4 good sized Iron Barks
    Its not a stil or husky but then its not ment to be. These days all power tools are ment to be consumerbles. And as there arnt any Aussie saws that I know of I ll always grab a bargin (unless I can find a tuboed Jonserd)
    funny you should say that about jonsereds I have a mate who is getting out of dealing chainsaws (all jonsereds) and he is selling out all his stock at 25% off. and his prices are lower than current retail already. he only has about 5 or 6 saws left, the biggest being 70 odd cc, not sure what the others are but there is a 60 something cc and smaller ones.

    Jonsereds are only huskys painted red anyway nowdays.

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    Travis you just shattered a dream. (cant wait to tell the old man they are huskys lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozzak View Post
    G'day Friends,
    I am looking to purchase a pole saw off ebay . There are 3 brands all 33cc units.I was wondering if anyone has any useful feedback on these or similar.
    I just purchased a Baumr chainsaw with a 22'' bar. Waiting on delivery. Happy to give it a go, only cost $115.00 delivered.
    I was originally going to purchase a chain saw, pole saw, ride on(Husqvana products) from the local distributor.(total cost $5500.00)
    I would appreciate any feedback, thanks lozzak.
    Yeah I bought one a while back , it is about 4m's long bloody marvelous , weighs a ton though with all the extensions , I will be getting the hedge trimmer attachment soon , thanks too the turkeys growing a hedge next door to my woman , the Baumer saws I bought came with carlton chains . Cheers MM

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