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    Default Stihl the best

    I've just shelled out for a Stihl Kombi unit and a few attachments 2 weeks ago

    Stihl FS90R Power head
    HS line trimmer
    HT Pole saw
    Extention shaft Carbon
    $1300

    Am also getting the cultivator and hedge trimmer as well as the sweeper and blower

    Oh! I converted an Aslav Drive shaft transportation module into a pole saw storage unit

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    Smile I like Stihl gear

    Quote Originally Posted by Krunchie View Post
    I've just shelled out for a Stihl Kombi unit and a few attachments 2 weeks ago

    Stihl FS90R Power head
    HS line trimmer
    HT Pole saw
    Extention shaft Carbon
    $1300

    Am also getting the cultivator and hedge trimmer as well as the sweeper and blower

    Oh! I converted an Aslav Drive shaft transportation module into a pole saw storage unit
    I like Stihl gear , but $1300 is way too much for me . Cheers MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by matildasmate View Post
    I like Stihl gear , but $1300 is way too much for me . Cheers MM
    I've been using this stuff professionally so it has paid for me to get it and is paying for me to use it.

    Pole saw work alone $35 phr


    Not to mention I use the whipper snipper at home

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    Smile Moies worth

    Quote Originally Posted by Krunchie View Post
    I've been using this stuff professionally so it has paid for me to get it and is paying for me to use it.

    Pole saw work alone $35 phr


    Not to mention I use the whipper snipper at home
    Good point , I only use mine trimming my trees and sometimes others too , sounds like you will get your monies worth . Cheers MM

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    Well I brought a Baumr 62 cc, 24 inch bar saw over a year ago. I brought it for mainly gathering firewood.
    To buy firewood locally cost around $100- $200 per box trailer load depending on species mix.
    I paid Approx $150 delivered for the saw off ebay. After assembly plus fuel plus bar oil first start was two pulls with the choke on (kicks second pull) then turn off the choke and start, and has been ever since.
    I supplied my own wood all last winter plus trimmed the tree in the front yard plus fell a tree in the back yard plus I cut all the posts for a bush hut including notching out the required joints.
    I used it for two days straight this weekend just gone, clearing back over grown trees from the two kilometre long driveway at dads farm so the cattle truck could get through. Dad was on his 16 inch Stihl and we worked side by side all weekend....Awesome (working with dad that is).

    I originally broke the compulsory first starter after the third use. I had to fit the spare but after inspection I modified my pulling technique. I now pull gently to take up the tension then follow through. I have also asked and received the compulsory replacement from the supplier which I keep as a back up (so far I haven't needed it). Plus by asking I recieved a complete parts list including prices and the saw is completely rebuildable at quite a reasonable price. (although at the original purchase price most wouldn't bother)

    The motor sounds strong and starts easily. I don't have any trouble with leaking chain oil, but I do plan on making a gasket for the air filter by applying neutral cure silicon to the carby casting and Vaseline to the air filter then assembling loosely till dry. Although there is an annoying clutch rattle/noise but this doesn't effect operation.

    The reason i brought a cheap saw is I can borrow Dads Stihl's when ever I want. He has two well maintained saws, a 26+ inch? farm boss and a 16 inch pruning saw, I can use them whenever I want, but it is much more convenient to have my own. And on some occasions mine starts easier

    I realise it is a cheap "Crap" saw and don't expect it to last like an expensive one but so far I am more than happy, heading into my second winter.
    I Keep my filter clean and most importantly on an underpowered saw I keep my chain sharp. I use the best 2 stroke oil I can find and good quality bar oil.

    Horses for Courses. There is no right or wrong.
    For me this is the right tool and I enjoy showing up many poorly maintained brand named tools with it.

    Dean

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    Quote Originally Posted by L for Learner View Post
    Although there is an annoying clutch rattle/noise but this doesn't effect operation.
    When was the last time you serviced the clutch drum bearing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    When was the last time you serviced the clutch drum bearing?
    I haven't but Then it is only just over 12 months old. I do plan on looking into it this weekend time permitting.

    Dean

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    Quote Originally Posted by L for Learner View Post
    I haven't but Then it is only just over 12 months old. I do plan on looking into it this weekend time permitting.

    Dean
    Ideally you should do it every second or third time you flip the bar. I have seen these bearings and the inside of the clutch so badly gummed up that resulted in the clutch effectively being on all the time which means the chain always turns (dangerous) or worse, only the bearing has gummed up solid to the clutch, but the crankshaft still turned and scored itself so badly it needed to be replaced. On the arboristsite someone posted a picture of a broken crankshaft which was probably caused by this.

    It's very easy to do if you have an inboard clutch (I do mine every time I flip the bar) but a right PITA on an outboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Ideally you should do it every second or third time you flip the bar. I have seen these bearings and the inside of the clutch so badly gummed up that resulted in the clutch effectively being on all the time which means the chain always turns (dangerous) or worse, only the bearing has gummed up solid to the clutch, but the crankshaft still turned and scored itself so badly it needed to be replaced. On the arboristsite someone posted a picture of a broken crankshaft which was probably caused by this.

    It's very easy to do if you have an inboard clutch (I do mine every time I flip the bar) but a right PITA on an outboard.
    Thats why I like stihls Bob, I do not know why husky stuck with outboard clutches for as long as they have, but yes the Baumr saws are all inboard and are basically a crude copy of the stihl, I think the rim sprockets are even probably interchangeable (haven't tried yet.) I know that the bars are.

    personally my opinion of the Baumr chainsaws is that they are a cheaply made saw, that are cheaply available, they are no comparison really to any of the name brands such as Stihl, husky, Oleo mac, or even echo. For the engine sizes they are underpowered.

    HOWEVER this said I think that they will be reliable enough for a bloke to cut the family firewood and maintain the garden or even a small farmer who doesn't do a lot of chainsaw work. In this situation I feel that the price of one of these makes them a far more justifyable option than going out and spending the dollars stihl or husky are asking for a saw that will be used sparingly. Used in this situation I feel most owners should get a good few years of service and lets face it it doesn't take long to earn its cost when you start cutting a few cubes of firewood a year.

    I have the 72cc saw they make, and honestly my 17 or 18 year old stihl 034 56.5cc saw will cut rings around it, use less fuel, leak less oil and end up with far less sawdust in the engine. The 2 biggest issues I have with my Baumr are the air cleaner and the massive amount of oil that it leaks. The air filter ALWAYS has far more sawdust on the inside of it than outside and I have made up some felt seals to try to solve the problem, which it hasn't but it has improved it a bit. I quized the sellers about this and they stated that the fine saw dust is combusted and that what the filter allows through should be fine enough that it will not cause a problem, obviously they havent seen the sand sized particles I find on the inside of the filter. The oil leaks from around the small rubber oiler hole and simply runs out of the orifice that it is set into and then runs down between the tin saw guide/protector plate and the chassis of the saw.

    I found that my saw had a bit of a splutter at WOT which I could not get rid of by mixture adjustment, SO i pulled the exhaust and the carby off to see what I could find.

    What I found were a lot of areas where airflow could be severly corrupted. I have now remedied the issues and the splutter is GONE, power is also up, not by a HUGE amount but it is definetly noticeable. The two main areas I touched up were the plastic spacer between the carby and the engine this is very crudely made and was probably the worst spot. I took to this with a file and smoothed the transition from the small round hole where the carby mates to the square end where it mates to the engine pot. the exhaust I simply matched the hole in the exhaust box to the port of the engine and smoothed all rough bits to help with smoothing the flow of exhaust gasses.

    There were a few other things I did as well but these were the most major and made a noticeable difference.

    When I first got the saw I ran it in for about 15 minutes while making a few minor adjustments like tickling back the idle which was ridiculously high, honestly do not know why the clutch was not fully engaged it was that high. any way after this breaking in period I went out to do my first real work with it and on the first cut it wrapped the starter rope around the crank and smashed the recoiler, lucky I had another saw with me, after sending an email to the seller They dispatched a whole new starter mechanism complete with side cover and prewound rope, So for backup service AGR machinery are good to deal with and genuine problems are resolved quickly. oh and they sent me the replacement parts at no cost to myself.

    Any way that is my 2 bobs worth, They are what they are and although they are definetly not a competitor for the big boys as far as quality of build and horsepower are concerned they are a good buy for what you pay for them and with the right maintenance would give the guy cutting his firewood and trimming the odd tree around the yard quite good service.

    Travis

    #edit# There are some other modifications that I have made as well to make it work properly and if anyone wants to know how to overcome an issue with their saw let me know and I may be able to give you a solution.

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    Default Be Careful

    I got one of these Baumr-ag sx-62 saws as well, what I quickly found it seemed under powered for a 62cc, so I got it tested, it only come up at 51cc, I contacted Mills International Trading Pty Limited which are the owners and they spun a story which was just rubbish on how the factory mad a mistake, so I done some more digging and found that they do this on purpose, as it seems the saws are available from several factories and the cost difference between a real 62cc and the smaller one they re-sticker is a fair bit, so they change the stickers and manuals and 99.9% of the population is none the wiser, and the ones who whinge like myself they quickly send freebies etc to shut you up, I also noticed they nag you to leave feedback straight away, I suspect this is so you can't leave negative to tell everyone else once you have found out.
    The blokes a grub and should be shut down, could you imagine if Holden advertised V8's for all cars and then you get it home and it was a 4 cylinder, the ACCC or Department of Fair Trading need to get there butts in to gear on this and make them re-call the lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Mad View Post
    I got one of these Baumr-ag sx-62 saws as well, what I quickly found it seemed under powered for a 62cc, so I got it tested, it only come up at 51cc, I contacted Mills International Trading Pty Limited which are the owners and they spun a story which was just rubbish on how the factory mad a mistake, so I done some more digging and found that they do this on purpose, as it seems the saws are available from several factories and the cost difference between a real 62cc and the smaller one they re-sticker is a fair bit, so they change the stickers and manuals and 99.9% of the population is none the wiser, and the ones who whinge like myself they quickly send freebies etc to shut you up, I also noticed they nag you to leave feedback straight away, I suspect this is so you can't leave negative to tell everyone else once you have found out.
    The blokes a grub and should be shut down, could you imagine if Holden advertised V8's for all cars and then you get it home and it was a 4 cylinder, the ACCC or Department of Fair Trading need to get there butts in to gear on this and make them re-call the lot.
    Sure that you are not from one of the opposition ebay sellers Woody mad? It just seems strange to me that you post this on the forum and at the same time this suddenly pops up on Ebay
    BBT 62cc Chainsaw Slabbing Chain Saw Walbro and NGK NEW - eBay Chainsaws, Outdoor Power Equipment, Gardening, Home. (end time 02-Jul-10 08:00:02 AEST)

    Honestly I do not care if you are or not but at the end of the day none of the people selling these can say that they meet safety standards as none of them do. I purchased one for a number of reasons one of which being to be able to give an honest evaluation to the good folks on this forum. Honestly the chain tensioning on them is sub par to put it politely, and is a safety issue, the air filtration may as well not be there, and the oil that should be going to lubricate the chain runs out of the clutch orifice and is carried by the clutch between the sprocket hub and the chain brake, which is a major safety issue. I am sure that none of these saws sold on ebay are any different and I actually know people who have bought saws from other ebay sellers, and they all have the same problems. Truth be known they probably all come out of the same factory. Honestly I have given mine a good workout and know what all of the problems they have are, and honestly I would not recommend that anybody who can afford a name brand saw buy one from any of the sellers on ebay. Honestly you would be better off buying one from bunnings. at least then when you find it is a piece of carp you can take it back for a refund. I have also seen the stihl copy saws on ebay but have not actually had one in my mits to evaluate properly, They generally go for a much higher price so You would hope that they are better built. if anyone has bought one and has some experience with real stihls or other name brand saws I would encourage them to tell what they know.
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    Travis, I believe in getting what you pay for, but I like to think that what is advertised should be delivered, I have had some good experiences on Ebay and some bad ones, I once bought a Husky for $1100 from a dealer and had nothing but trouble with it, it sat in the shop for over 16 weeks just out of warranty and they stung me for $80 and it still would not start, so out of frustration I threw it in the corner and bought the ebay saw, it seems I am not meant to have a chainsaw I will stick with my electric table saw, it hasn't let me down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Mad View Post
    Travis, I believe in getting what you pay for, but I like to think that what is advertised should be delivered, I have had some good experiences on Ebay and some bad ones, I once bought a Husky for $1100 from a dealer and had nothing but trouble with it, it sat in the shop for over 16 weeks just out of warranty and they stung me for $80 and it still would not start, so out of frustration I threw it in the corner and bought the ebay saw, it seems I am not meant to have a chainsaw I will stick with my electric table saw, it hasn't let me down.
    Do you stihl have that husky? pardon the pun. sounds like you need to take it to a better dealer to me or at least someone who has an idea about what goes wrong with them. with huskies it is more often than not the ignition module which are fairly cheap and easy to replace which stops them from starting.
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Edwards View Post
    Do you stihl have that husky? pardon the pun. sounds like you need to take it to a better dealer to me or at least someone who has an idea about what goes wrong with them. with huskies it is more often than not the ignition module which are fairly cheap and easy to replace which stops them from starting.
    I still have it, I will bring it out in the next few weeks I think.
    I think you are right, it may be the dealer, last time he claimed it was a fuel problem and also a clutch problem, it just #### me so much, spending $1100 bucks and not getting any warranty or real back up, 16 weeks is just wrong, especially when they advertise better back up, none of the government departments do anything, retailers get away with murder and online sellers get away with more.
    I will go to the next town dealer this time hopefully better luck there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Mad View Post
    I still have it, I will bring it out in the next few weeks I think.
    I think you are right, it may be the dealer, last time he claimed it was a fuel problem and also a clutch problem, it just #### me so much, spending $1100 bucks and not getting any warranty or real back up, 16 weeks is just wrong, especially when they advertise better back up, none of the government departments do anything, retailers get away with murder and online sellers get away with more.
    I will go to the next town dealer this time hopefully better luck there.
    If you have no luck I would be happy to look at it, turnaround may be a bit slow, but if I can fix it, all it will cost you is parts, postage, and a few beers. what model is it by the way?
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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