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    He's right too you want a good Dc welder get your self a gen set

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsposs View Post
    He's right too you want a good Dc welder get your self a gen set
    I'm not against inverters at all, in fact I love them.
    What I am saying is that they are not the be all and end all of the welder world, (neither are MIGS), and that there are other options.
    AC Transformers are the simplest option for the handyman welder as they take away the need to make decisions on polarity etc and with the advent of twin coated low hydrogen electrodes even low ocv, (read handyman) welders will run low hydrogen electrodes if needed.
    I personally own 2 AC transformer, 1 DC generator welder and a MIG. All have there place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Robbers View Post
    I'm not against inverters at all, in fact I love them.
    What I am saying is that they are not the be all and end all of the welder world, (neither are MIGS), and that there are other options.
    AC Transformers are the simplest option for the handyman welder as they take away the need to make decisions on polarity etc and with the advent of twin coated low hydrogen electrodes even low ocv, (read handyman) welders will run low hydrogen electrodes if needed.
    I personally own 2 AC transformer, 1 DC generator welder and a MIG. All have there place.

    I agree Karl they all have their place and all brands have their good and bad (like the $2500 BOC plasma cutter we have at work which has spent more time being fixed than working in the 18 months we have had it!!)

    In my work I have used more different welders than most guys even know exist!


    However this doesn't change the fact of what the thread was all about! RUBBISH EBAY CHAINSAWS, and as I say if we do not know by now that these cheap ebay machines may be a hundred bucks cheaper to buy than a name brand whatever, they are also far less reliable and do not have the backup or serviceability or safety features of the said name brand machines, then we never will.

    These machines are exploiting cheap labour and the gullibility of the end buyer to line the pockets of the bloke in between who gets them for next to nothing and sells them for what seems a reasonable amount less than the name brand equivalent.

    Hell in china they even sell man made eggs made from highly toxic chemicals because it is cheaper than growing a chicken and harvesting the real ones. WHERE will it stop, when we all die from eating fake eggs, or taking counterfeit medication for the cancer they have caused?

    ASK YOURSELF is it worth not paying that bit extra for a REAL product? A product that has backup and is not promoting slave labour and making a few a..holes rich at the expense of those labourers and you the end consumer!!!!!
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    Tell me that Travis when I get a L10 or L15 band mill for grand a pop. With genuine Kholar engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Edwards View Post
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    Hell in china they even sell man made eggs made from highly toxic chemicals because it is cheaper than growing a chicken and harvesting the real ones. WHERE will it stop, when we all die from eating fake eggs, or taking counterfeit medication for the cancer they have caused?
    You make it sound like brand name chainsaws don't use ANYTHING made out of china :LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Edwards View Post
    ASK YOURSELF is it worth not paying that bit extra for a REAL product? A product that has backup and is not promoting slave labour and making a few a..holes rich at the expense of those labourers and you the end consumer!!!!!
    I asked myself everyday and then remember that pretty much everything is made in china to an extent in this day and age. Why should I pay more based on your reasoning given this fact or perhaps you haven't yet considered this aspect and think that magically brand name chainsaws bypass any chinese labour and manufacture for any and all components used in there system.

    Lets get real. It's 90%+ a chinese product with a badge slapped on and if you are lucky it's assembled outside of chine to make it appear "quality" ... About the only advantage you get is "support" in the fact it's popular enough that you can source parts at a local store. Thing is most of these generics share common parts with popular saws anyway and you can get parts for except it's not as easy as quoting a model number and being able to directly relate the part ot it from a book.

    I made my choice and I won't be buying a significantly overpriced brand saw anymore for the work I do at least. Hell have a look at the prices in australia vs the rest of the world for chainsaws and you will soon come to realise the price you are paying is more dependent on how gullible the market is than what it costs to make the saw..

    I'd rather spend more money on a better chain and tools to sharpen it. That's where the real difference lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    You make it sound like brand name chainsaws don't use ANYTHING made out of china :LOL

    I asked myself everyday and then remember that pretty much everything is made in china to an extent in this day and age. Why should I pay more based on your reasoning given this fact or perhaps you haven't yet considered this aspect and think that magically brand name chainsaws bypass any chinese labour and manufacture for any and all components used in there system.

    Lets get real. It's 90%+ a chinese product with a badge slapped on and if you are lucky it's assembled outside of chine to make it appear "quality" ... About the only advantage you get is "support" in the fact it's popular enough that you can source parts at a local store. Thing is most of these generics share common parts with popular saws anyway and you can get parts for except it's not as easy as quoting a model number and being able to directly relate the part ot it from a book.

    I made my choice and I won't be buying a significantly overpriced brand saw anymore for the work I do at least. Hell have a look at the prices in australia vs the rest of the world for chainsaws and you will soon come to realise the price you are paying is more dependent on how gullible the market is than what it costs to make the saw..

    I'd rather spend more money on a better chain and tools to sharpen it. That's where the real difference lies.
    Trust me montiee if you USED a brand name saw you would realise that the differences run much deeper than a decent chain and better backup and support!!!!!
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    QUOTE=Travis Edwards;1279879]Trust me montiee if you USED a brand name saw you would realise that the differences run much deeper than a decent chain and better backup and support!!!!![/QUOTE]

    Not sure about the better backup & support, I have had trouble with both Husqvarna & Stihl, more so the latter.
    Try dusting the engine on an 880 and have Stihl tell you it is normal wear & tear even though the air filter system is sub standard and the bore and piston were scored, or have another 880's piston disintegrate and lock the saw in milliseconds, then have Stihl tell you they will just replace the cylinder assy when the crank and con rod would have been exposed to severe stress when it locked solid.
    That really me off to the point I was about to take legal action against them and is the reason I ended up with the pre release latest model 880 abt 15 months ago.

    I will point out that the 880's I had problems with had the cast muffler, the newer model with the SS muffler has performed almost faultlessly, the sore point still being the air filtration system.

    Another thing, I purchased 2 new saws last June ( 660 & 880 ) and waited until 2 weeks ago for the severe service air filter kits to be supplied by Stihl n/c as I will not run the std filter, The fella in the warranty section and the techo would not even answer my emails, they do not like putting anything in writing.


    On the other hand, there is really not any other saw that will perform as good as the big Stihl's in a commercial situation. There are now only a couple problems, 1 ) air filters on both the 660 & 880, & 2 ) oil pump flow on the ms660.



    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    I'd rather spend more money on a better chain and tools to sharpen it. That's where the real difference lies.
    If you can get the Wun Hung Lo to perform as good as a Stihl by just using a better chain ur a better bloke than me. In my opinion the Chinese should stick to making what they know best EG: Peking Duck and Flied Lice.
    They really do make s h i t chainsaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsposs View Post
    Tell me that Travis when I get a L10 or L15 band mill for grand a pop. With genuine Kholar engines.
    If you can get an l10 or l15 for that I will take 3 of them. they are a lot more than that!
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    OK - sat back and watched this thread for ages coz I needed a chainsaw to use while I'm running the Lucas Mill for docking and branch trimming. Not a lot of work though.

    Went with a Baumr AG72 because of tight finances. Started on assembly, ran well, not a problem. Then about 6 months in no start. Had been monitoring the air filter and was not that happy with it but now it is knackered and I suspect the carby is full of crap. Tried a clean out but to no avail - not a carby man myself - damned fiddly things full of devices to make life difficult. Support? well I'm buggered if I can find anyone to talk to - the supplier has even disappeared!

    As luck would have it a friend had an old Stihl 066 sitting around and offered it to me. Chain was jammed in the drive sprocket - run too slack. Cleaned it up, dressed the bar, new oil and fuel and away she went

    Minor adjustment to get it to idle and peak rev. Sharp new chain and fair dinkum it's like comparing boiled lollies to chocolates.

    Mind you they both leak chain oil but even the old Stihl electric used to do that so I guess that's chainsaws for you.

    Anyone want the Baumr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnsey View Post
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    Mind you they both leak chain oil but even the old Stihl electric used to do that so I guess that's chainsaws for you.
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    If you really want to this is usually a POP to fix. Most of the time it is the oil tank vent valve is blocked. While it is possible to clean them, mostly it's not worth it and they can be replaced by knocking them out with a drift punch and replacing them with a new one. They only cost a few $ each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnsey View Post

    Anyone want the Baumr?

    Jamie
    I am told the bummers make good weights for cray pots, just don't let the greenies see the oil slick you leave!!!

    Actually You need to fill the petrol and oil tanks with lead or the buggers float.
    I am told that sharpening handsaws is a dying art.... this must mean I am an artisan.

    Get your handsaws sharpened properly to the highest possible standard, the only way they should be done, BY HAND, BY ME!!! I only accept perfection in any saw I sharpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    If you really want to this is usually a POP to fix. Most of the time it is the oil tank vent valve is blocked. While it is possible to clean them, mostly it's not worth it and they can be replaced by knocking them out with a drift punch and replacing them with a new one. They only cost a few $ each.
    Thanks for the tip.

    How do I get to this vent valve?

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    this is my 1st post and the 3rd time of trying to submit it

    Any how I got one of these Baumrs on friday, I couldnt justify the $$$$$ for a farmboss (used a few with the RFS and love the Stihl as a saw but couldnt come up with the $$$$) I told my self as I was processing the payment I would regret it, and I surched the brand after that and read on a few different forums that this was the case.

    but I gave it a hard work out yesterday (4+ hours only stoping for fuel bar oil and to dress the chain) and this threads correct if you are expecting a Stihl you will be dissapointed, but if you accept its just a budget saw for use arround your hobby far like I'm using it its a great value for money saw considering I only use it for chopping fallen timber and firewood even if I go through one a year, at that cost I can live with that

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    Sawchain: Buy a second hand Stihl 090. For the work with big logs, they cant be beaten. I own 2 and wouldnt trade them. Had 2 084's- Both crap. New 660- 12months,buggered crankcase seal.

    Picked up an 090 and a spare 070 for $200 at my local Stihl dealer,and love them to bits.

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    Ive done 2 full days with mine since my last post and honustly I think its getting better, the clutch is setteling in well now and I just cant fault it, it starts well now hot and cold (I had to adjust the mixtures on its first outing but havent touched it on its last 2 work days)

    I'm no expert but for a guy that wants to go down the back paddok with a ute and the trailer and chop up a mess of fire wood like I am this thing is great, even the cheap chains they come with seem to hold their edge well I have 3 chaines but the 2 are still in the packets I've just run the file over it a couple of times and it's come up well

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