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    Default Any baumr chainsaw owners..

    It's a bit late but I bought a 62cc 22inch bar 4.1HP 11000rpm baumr-ag pro chainsaw from ebay this morning at a great price (~$150 inc delivery). Seems too good to be true I know but I couldn't find anyone bagging it out when I did a search moments leading up to the purchase. Says it complies with Australian safety standards which is always a good thing. I got tired of begging a friends dad to borrow his ancient (and blunt, hard to start and keep runing) stihl on the odd occasion.

    Just curious if anyone has owned one of these and can give me a heads up of any little gotcha's/tips to make the operation as smooth as possible. I plan to loctite the screws for a start but anything else?

    Opinions?

    Cheers
    PS: Yes I know stihl/husky would have been great and no comparison most likely but I'm short on cash and this thing will be used on the odd occassion to slice up some firewood. I'm not going into the loggin industry with it :lol:

    Edit:hmm perhaps this should have gone into powered handtools section. If a mod thinks that is a more appropriate place feel free to move it. You'll get no objections from me either way.

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    the only problem with mine is the oil leaks out of the saw apart from that its great

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    mine works ok.

    I wouldn't loctiite the screws, just check they are all tight, you might need to strip it down at times.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Thanks. Sounds decent so far then...

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    I have 4 cheap saws, One is a pole saw, one is a little 25cc pruner, one is a 65cc saw and one is a 62cc saw. All work well, The 65cc one kept dropping the rubber mounting bracket. They sent me a new rubber and no problems since.
    I am learning, slowley.

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    Yes I bought one on eBay ... 16" bar size.

    Oil pump did not work ... asked for a replacement chainsaw
    but no deal. They sent me a new oil pump to be fitted at my
    expense. Same deal with my son-in-law's chainsaw.

    Had mine fitted (cost $60) and still did not work. Took it back
    to local repairer who had another go. Still did not work and
    oil was leaking all over the place.

    Took it to another repairer in Seymour and found it was a faulty
    worm drive. He fitted another and now pumps ok. Nevertheless
    oil still leaks everywhere on the floor after use.

    I have previously publicized this in a post some time back.

    Allan
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    Bought a Baumr Ag 62cc with 20 inch bar. Use as a spare to my 25 year old, never been touched Stihl 048, 72 cc. Absolutely no comparison in power, Stihl outcuts it 3 to 1 easy, but its very light easy to handle. Only problem I seem to have is it needs to be tuned just about every time I use it.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Caddaye View Post
    Bought a Baumr Ag 62cc with 20 inch bar. Use as a spare to my 25 year old, never been touched Stihl 048, 72 cc. Absolutely no comparison in power, Stihl outcuts it 3 to 1 easy, but its very light easy to handle. Only problem I seem to have is it needs to be tuned just about every time I use it.
    Yeh I didn't expect it to compare to a stihl but lets face it, at 1/10th of the price even if it's 1/4 as good it's a bargain. Plan is to use it on the odd occassion to cut up some firewood and that's about it. Not in any hurry so even if it takes 3x longer it doesn't matter. I'm not making money out of it.. Mine should be delivered soon, probably tomorrow or the next day hopefully..

    Anyone worked out whether it's a copy of a more popular model when it comes to spares (bar, sprockets etc?). Might be a pointless question because in the end it might be cheaper buying a new one :lol:

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    You get what you pay for, I have seen a few too many crook ones, as mentioned by Les Caddaye the saw sometimes needs a tune every time you start them, mostly fitted with a bar too long for the saw, oil tank seems to syphon, oil pump drive fails,chain side cover warps & air filter is totally inefficient.
    A friend bought 2 of the 62cc and they blew up within 12 months, I refuse to work on them anymore.The companies that import these saws pay about $45 - $55USD for them - top quality ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawchain View Post
    The companies that import these saws pay about $45 - $55USD for them - top quality ?
    Oh I'm not arguing with you that they are top quality. Really the husky/stihl chainsaws are overpriced. They aren't high tech innovations anymore and should be retailing for no more tha $400 for a stihl 20+'' bar pro model. It's just that they are used to people paying so why reduce prices. Also the lack of competition doesn't help. I'm kind of glad the chinese versions are flooding in. It may put pressure on the big two to become alitle more competitive. If you think about it there isn't much to a chainsaw to justify the crazy prices that are being charged by the big two.

    I see it in the same light as ozito or gmc products. If you don't expect to use them and abuse then everyday like a tradie would then they are quite fine for the job. All my cheapies are going strong while my expensive triton router has spat the dummy twice in two years of ownership and it's been hardly used. I truly regret buying it. Sometimes you just don't need to pay extraordinary prices for a tool you plan on using a few times a year. The triton taught me that. Even if I bought one (baumr chainsaw) every year I could keep on going for ~14 years for the cost of a base model stihl and imagine the spares I'd have by the end of it. The way I see it if you can afford the downtime which every non professional obviously can then really there isn't much argument for buying a professional chainsaw at those prices. The regular maintenaince/service fee for a stihl costs more in some cases than a new unit.

    I certainly won't be paying to get the baumr repaired. It's a case of if I can fix it then fine else I'll onsell for parts on ebay. If it lasts me 5 years I'll be exceptionally happy with it. I don't mind if I have to tweak it every now and then. At that price it's not worth repairing as you could get a brand new saw just based on the labor cost of the repair that repairers charge. Probably not a good thing for chain saw repairers :lol:

    I guess in a years time I'll be able to see for myself whether it was worth it but at that price I can't see how it couldn't be regardless unless it doesn't work right off the bat.

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    I have exactly the same attitude.

    When its kaput its a right hand and left shoulder job
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    I am all for cheap small chain saws because that means I will have an endless free supply of them. People find out I like fiddling with chain saws and end up giving them to me, usually because they cannot get them started or are in need of a minor repairs. I do use the odd one from time to time for milling small logs or cutting up firewood, and while they are fun for about 5 minutes, none provide the satisfaction of milling a big log with a big reliable saw with some serious grunt. Part of that satisfaction is also knowing the big saw won't become landfill in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    I do use the odd one from time to time for milling small logs or cutting up firewood, and while they are fun for about 5 minutes, none provide the satisfaction of milling a big log with a big reliable saw with some serious grunt.
    I don't think anyone who buys a cheap chainsaw is into serious "logging" really. Most of us want a chainsaw to cut down a small tree on the odd occasion in the garden/property, cut up some firewood or sleepers and that's about it. Like I was saying not all of us are professionals requiring the grunt and reliability and quick servicing that one may get from a saw that costs 10x as much. If a log takes me 1 minute vs 30 seconds to cut it's not a big deal for me. However to someone who makes a living from it I can see it makes a huge difference over an entire day. for me however the 10 minutes I might save on the overall job doesn't justify 10x the price and exhorbidant servicing costs that go along with a pro chainsaw.
    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Part of that satisfaction is also knowing the big saw won't become landfill in the near future.
    Because you can't afford to make it landfill since the initial outlay was so much. It's like my triton router. After spending ~$500 I had to spend another $100+ to get it repaired since I was so invested in it. If I had bought a cheap $150-$200 router it would of worked just as well for what I needed and if it did break down I could of just bought another, kept the old one for parts and still be out ahead. My mistake. One I won't do again.
    Sure if you are going to be running it 8hrs a day 5 days a week I see the reasoning behind spending $2k+ and being able to claim a large chunk of it and the servicing back in tax but most of us aren't in that category. Up till now the likes of stihl haven't given the "amatuers" a fair go price wise so I'm happy that someone has stepped in.Otherwise I probably would never own a chainsaw. If this baumr is as good as the gmc tools I've owned I'll be more than happy for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montiee View Post
    Most of us want a chainsaw to cut down a small tree on the odd occasion in the garden/property, cut up some firewood or sleepers and that's about it.
    This forum is not a firewood or pruning forum it's a milling forum. Gardening discussions can be found here. I am happy to discuss milling with small even cheap saws, since I mill with my small saws every now and then, for whatever reason people mill, which for me is mostly for fun.

    Because you can't afford to make it landfill since the initial outlay was so much.
    You seem to be suggesting that only professionals should buy or use good tools or mill big logs? I am not a professional miller, I do it mainly for fun and to access timber that is just not available at the local hardware store or timber yard. I find it fun to use a quality tool to open up a big log and really seeing what is inside. The first opening is as original as it will ever be. No amount of finishing or fiddling will ever restore the original vibrancy of colour seen when a freshly milled slab is first turned over, since sunlight and air destroys the pigments, often within minutes of making the cut. To do this with big logs I need a big saw.

    I mill Saturdays or Sundays each week during late autumn, winter and spring. I like using tools that are satisfying to use. Other people buy fancy cars, motobikes or boats, I like quality big saws - it's not about meeting deadlines, or making a quid, it's about enjoying myself and the resulting timber is a bonus. I had a lot of fun using small saws for milling for about 6 months, then I bought a 12 year old 076 for $500 and that was way more fun, then I got the opportunity to buy a never used 880 (for less than half the RRP) - more fun again. Now, milling with my small saws is simply not as much fun.

    BTW I also have a Triton router and I wouldn't really call it a professional tool. Just like you I also buy cheap tools for their purpose. In 2003 when I didn't have a lot of spare cash I bought a $39 angle grinder which has been worked pretty hard and still going strong so it is still not yet landfill, but I don't find using any angle grinder (even a $1000 grinder) fun, I hate the screaming noise they make (give me a chainsaw anyday) and I just want to get the job done. I can't imagine anyone having fun with a $1000 grinder but if they do - good luck to them. On the other hand I like hand planing so I saved my pennies and bought a lie nielsen jack and I find that way more satisfying to use than a cheap plane. Some people like end products but some of use like the experiences a long the way to get the end product just as much or even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    This forum is not a firewood or pruning forum it's a milling forum. Gardening discussions can be found here. I am happy to discuss milling with small even cheap saws, since I mill with my small saws every now and then, for whatever reason people mill, which for me is mostly for fun.
    Unfortunately it's too late now. At first I placed this thread under "timber" since I associate chainsawing with it in general but a mod moved it here. To be honest there is no perfect forum for this since I don't want to do just gardening infact the main task will be roughly chopping up firewood ...

    I get where you are coming from with the fun aspect but to be truthful I don't have fun from using tools. I get fun from the end product and the achievement of transfering something generic into something useful/nice. I usually find the stuff in between something I have to do to get to the fun bit. Sure it's fun learning to use a new tool that you've never owned before but it only lasts for so long :lol:

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