Thread: Budget chainsaws

Originally Posted by chambezio

I have 2 Baumr 22" saws bought 1 year apart. I wanted to do some slabbing and the first one did an excellant job straight out of the box. It performed a lot better than my original 20 something year old McCullock (only because the Mac is slow revving I think) The second saw was never very good and was spasmodic in its performance.
Now both won't go. They have spark but it must be the fuel. I have a mate who is a mechanic but is not all that keen on small engines
Has anybody done some deep dissections of these saws? Is there a fuel filter deep inside that could be clogged?
Or is there some where else to look?
I know you get what you pay for and I am expecting these saws to have short and brilliant career. But I think a little tinkering might get them to go

I have completely stripped and unfortunately had to rebuild these saws and basically if it don't run throw it they are never much good by the time they stop working. I have found that if they have not been started for quite a while they tend to not want to start but you can often get them going by pouring a small amount of fuel into the carby throat and start it you may have to do this a couple of times before it actually starts sucking fuel from the tank. Do not ask me why they do it but they won't suck fuel after they have been left sit for a while.

2 strokes are quite simple and basically if it doesn't run it is either fuel or spark or possibly leaky seals on the crankcase. OR I guess if the piston is melted to the cylinder, you might have the same symptom. Do not be afraid to take them apart and put em back together they look a bit daunting at first but you will quickly learn that there is not much to them.

What Travis said Just to add to the Makita dolmar thing they are also sold as Solo as well. I am getting rid of my Stihls to stick with Makita. Once you look a little harder Makita make bit more sense I had a Makita rep drive 8 hours on saturday to lend me a saw to use till he can sort one of mine out. I will say the 90cc is a bit heavier then both the 660 and the 390 when you bashing trought the bush but only half the price it doesnt hurt as much if you loose it to a tree or stupidity or lack of experience.

Originally Posted by itsposs

What Travis said Just to add to the Makita dolmar thing they are also sold as Solo as well. I am getting rid of my Stihls to stick with Makita. Once you look a little harder Makita make bit more sense I had a Makita rep drive 8 hours on saturday to lend me a saw to use till he can sort one of mine out. I will say the 90cc is a bit heavier then both the 660 and the 390 when you bashing trought the bush but only half the price it doesnt hurt as much if you loose it to a tree or stupidity or lack of experience.

Solo are not Dolmar although they are built on similar platforms and some parts are shared/interchangeable. Solo saws do have a good rep also but are higher priced, the dolmar HD filters will not fit the solos and in aussie hardwoods you would want to change out the standard filter for the HD ones on the dolmar for long term heavy use.

yes your right with the Air filters the Makita 6401 to the 7901 are the same platform as is 665 -681
and the DCS 9010 and Solo 694 I am running a 694 mag case on my 9010 now either way Makitas are really worth a look

Well, I have finally aquired a chainsaw; a 40cc "Bigger Boyz Toyz" as originally suggested by Pappy. The "Ross" ended up having a waiting time of 6 weeks for delivery, too bloody long for my liking.

OK, the stats:

39.5cc
2.6hp (1.6kw)
Walbro carby
Genuine16" Oregon bar and chain
Zero dust air filter (pleated paper type
Champion spark plug
Bar cover, tool kit and fuel bottle

All this for $160 deliverd in four days. BobL mentioned there was no real contact info on their website other than their online enquiry system so I dropped them a line asking for a phone number. They replied a couple of hours later giving me their landline. When I called the young lady on the other end of the line was very helpful and polite and gave me all the info I needed for any possible warranty claims. This saw has had none returned so far .

The saw arrived double boxed and in good condition. It is very orange and everything looks and feels quite sturdy (in my somewhat limited chainsaw experience). The crankcases are made from thermosetting plastic so although I would have prefered ally it means the palm juice won't eat them. Putting all together together was very easy. Due to being just a tad busy I was unable to test the machine before going back onshift for a couple of weeks but I did fill the chain and bar oil tank.

When I finally had the time to mutilate some palms last week I did find that the bar and chain oil had leaked a little, about a tablespoon a week, so I'll be storing it empty. The fuel bottle is fairly small but easy to fill with two compartments; one for oil and the other for petrol. One side is marked 25:1, the other 50:1, conveniently covering all my two stroke requirements! As another bonus the bottle is small enough to fill each tank of every machine I own so no more leaving premix sitting around for weeks.

Starting is easy; pull out the choke and pull until the motor "coughs", then push the choke in and she starts next pull. The first time I started it it took about 10 pulls to get the carby primed. Once running, she starts first pull after stopping. It runs smoothly with no spluttering and the chain brake seems to work ok; well it stops the chain dead from full speed and won't allow it to turn with full throttle. There is a second brake test mentioned in the instruction manual where you hold the saw one handed about a foot above a plank and smartly drop the tip onto the wood, whereby the brake should operate. Erm, never heard of this one before and too nervous to try it at the mo, professional opinions please?

First use, half a dozen small-ish palms about 4" in diameter. The saw sliced through these like butter; didn't slow down a jot. Next up were a load of pine saplings up to 3" dia, once again it didn't feel them. Finally I went around the property lopping low and damaged limbs from all my trees; a mixture of paperbarks, stringybarks and other gums. The machine performed flawlessly. This little lot was done over two days, when I went to start it on the second day she fired up third pull.

On my next break in a couple of weeks I'll be attacking about a dozen large palms and a dead gum tree in my front yard, so providing it doesn't explode or attack me then the saw will have paid for itself at that point. At no point have I had to use any pressure on the saw at all, the weight of the saw is more than enough. The chain is still razor sharp and well oiled.

Now, maintenance. As I am away at work tomorrow the saw is having it's bar and chain removed and everything cleaned. I was going to store the bar and chain in a shallow oil bath; is this a bit OTT? All the fuel and oil is being drained out of the tanks too. This is what I intend to do after pretty much every use.

Sharpening: doesn't need it yet but will definately be getting done after the big palms. I like doing things by hand using jigs and now I want to know which is the best sharpening jig. I thought of this type and this type, but there is also a little diamond type one made by Ezylap. Getting it sharpened professionally will involve a 20k round trip into town so I'd rather learn how to do it myself.

Thus far I am happy with my purchase and looking forward to some severe palm tree mutilating in a couple of weeks! Many thanks to all who have contributed their advice, experience and opinions so far.

Great to hear its all going well at this time.


The oil leak when store full appears to be a minor problem (mine and brother inlaw's both leak) but does not effect it's performance.




Pappy.

I have owned a husky cd2100 from new
Light to moderate work over that time
Recently it stopped so I took it to the dealer I originally purchased it from and was informed that parts are no longer available for that model
Well thanks very much for that mr husky
Anyone know if the advise of the dealer is accurate
Possibly need a coil
Have replaced it with a cheapy to keep working so far no complaints

Originally Posted by woodywpecker

I have owned a husky cd2100 from new
Light to moderate work over that time
Recently it stopped so I took it to the dealer I originally purchased it from and was informed that parts are no longer available for that model
Well thanks very much for that mr husky
Anyone know if the advise of the dealer is accurate

The CD2100 was officially manufactured during 1975 to 1987 so you are asking a manufacturer to support a 24 year old product - there are not many manufacturers that will do that.

There are plenty of used parts for these saws on ebay.

The other alternative if you know exactly what you want is to do as follows. When I needed a replacement air filter for my 17 year old Stihl 076 I went on line and made up an email list of half a dozen bigger Husky dealers that were more likely to have old stock and I sent out one email to all and received 4 replies, 3 dealers had nothing, but one had 3 filters so I bought all 3!

CHeers

I own a 2101 xp myself and I can tell you that some of what is said is true. I searched for a long time for a coil for this saw and finally got one from Canada on Ebay. I kept seeing claims that the list price for this part was........ This indicates they are still available, but I think not.

I got a parcel today of a replacement "NEW" oil pump. The local Husky repairer told me they have not been available for over 10 years. I don't know if still sold by husky overseas or not. This one was on Ebay too.

If I bought up parts to cover everything I could think of something else would go wrong and then I'd be selling them on ebay myself. I think I will just keep going until I cannot replace or fix or make something then stop cutting wood because I cannot afford a new saw. Probably wont be able to pick up the saw by then anyway.

Dean

Bobl,


I had the same problem getting a filter for my 076 after being told by dealers in Melbourne they were not available. I when to the dealer in Mansfield (ntheast Vic) and they had plenty in stock. And stated were able to get more.




Pappy

"The CD2100 was officially manufactured during 1975 to 1987"
the years....where have they gone
must have bought mine in '82 ....

Thanks for the suggestions for tracking down parts...i had simply given up

Dean i also note the weight of these units and bought a smaller 340 husky to suit
Back on topic the b ag 72 has really surprised me
maybe had i owned sthils rather than huskies i would have noticed a difference

"my piece of advice would be don't get caught up in the toss factor of a supposedly bigger saw when really you could have bought a better quality smaller saw for the same dollars that will do the job just as well and be more reliable and enjoyable to use in the long term."

Good post
I put a new chain on my Josered 62 MkII last year and it just ate several 30" white gum logs that were sitting in a friends yard. I had to go from both sides but it was no trouble at all to cut full depth.
Last week I cut a trailer load of very very hard hakea trees into logs some 12"-14" in diameter, I used my little Stihl 009 one of the smallest Stihls available. No trouble at all.
I might mention that my nextdoor neighbor bought a tiny $99 saw from Bunnings 2 weeks ago to do some tree lopping. He has Stihls but they are all too heavy to use while climbing. Its is broken already. The fuel dome pump thingy on the side has snapped off.
One does not need the biggest engine or the longest "badass" blade on the market just a good saw and a sharp chain.

Originally Posted by Pappy

Bobl,
I had the same problem getting a filter for my 076 after being told by dealers in Melbourne they were not available. I when to the dealer in Mansfield (ntheast Vic) and they had plenty in stock. And stated were able to get more.
Pappy

The 076 (like the 090) is only a discontinued saw in Europe, Canada, Aus and the USA. It is still made in Mexico and Brazil so parts are available via certain third parties.

Originally Posted by hybridfiat

One does not need the biggest engine or the longest "badass" blade on the market just a good saw and a sharp chain.

Yep I Agree. My dad and his partners used to bring down and buck up giant karri with 100cc McCullochs and just a 42" bars.

I have access to a container full of saws in the milling yard and the temptation is to use bigger and badder saws even to do small tasks but mostly a size or two smaller saw works just as well. My favorite bucking saw is my own 441 with the 25" bar running 050 lopro chain. This narrower kerf chain allows it to fair zip thru wood like a 660 running 3/8. Bars to run this chain longer than 25" are not available and besides this chain would stretch too much to make it practicable.