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23rd June 2010, 08:23 PM #1
saw chain millers please(Chainsaw & Slabbers)
The cook has just let get a new REAL chainsaw shall have it soon a shiny 066 magnum $1699. Went into Bundy to get a 395xp and saw the Stihl special
I vew been looking at accerories and stuff like Home Page
Now to the questions
How good is this stuff Stihl rapid duro carbide chainsaw chain and how will it work in a skip chain set up for slabbing ?
I went back through the forums and found out about sawchain he s got a great site going there then studied further trying to find about powering double saw bars any one running one of these for slabmilling ?.
And what would be the minimum power requirement for one say about 60"?
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23rd June 2010, 09:20 PM #2
Can't help ya with the techo stuff, Bob L won't be far away, but thats a great price on the 66, local sthil shop here had them on sale for $1995 month or 2 ago, looks like you pounced well, congrads, you will be impressed I'm sure
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24th June 2010, 01:10 AM #3.
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Congrat's that is a really nice saw.
I vew been looking at accerories and stuff like Home Page
The mill on the lefthand side of the pantherpro site shows what is called a chain saw carriage mill. In general, unless these mills are mounted on trailer, they are more or less a fixed site operation and logs have to be moved to them. If they are mounted on a trailer, logs have to be lifted onto them. If they are located on the ground logs have to be rolled onto them. I haven't used one but I wouldn't like to be moving logs around all the time like that.
The other mill shown is a fixed length Alaskan design which IMHO are not as flexible as variable length designs.
If the alaskan type of mill interests you, think about getting a local product ie see Westford Chainsaw Mills
Now to the questions
How good is this stuff Stihl rapid duro carbide chainsaw chain and how will it work in a skip chain set up for slabbing ?
BUT aside from the expense some there are problems with it
It is more difficult to sharpen than regular chain and if you hit anything hard really the cutter tips are more brittle and can snap off more easily. Reshaping a broken carbide cutter is something best left to a pro carbide sharpening place. It's no problem leaving one cutter shorter than the others, but if 3 or 4 cutters are shorter successive cutters are shorter then the other cutters have to be shortened as well ie a PITA.
The reality is, for a whole lot of reasons you will need at least 2 or 3 (some CS millers use 5 of 6) chains for whatever length of bar you go milling with. Some people find it easier to swap chains rather than touch up in the field. For the price of one of these chains you can get a 100 ft roll of chain from sawchain and make up all teh loops of chain you need.
I went back through the forums and found out about sawchain he s got a great site going there then studied further trying to find about powering double saw bars any one running one of these for slabmilling ?.
And what would be the minimum power requirement for one say about 60"?
Don't forget, as soon as you go double ended its either a carriage mill or two person alaskan operation. I prefer to be mobile and operate by myself.
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24th June 2010, 01:59 AM #4Senior Member
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yes some stihl dealers have good deals at the moment just brought a ms 880 for $1900 thats with stihl $200 cash back
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25th June 2010, 09:17 PM #5
Most of the timber is 12-20" logs.But odd local jobs require more equipment then I can afford atm
iron bark, bloodwood (pink an red),bluegum,spottedgum(might keep for firewood),messmate, macadamia nut trees mango trees quite a few I dont know the names of and various pines. 4 1.8-2m cypresspines need to be done soonish or they will just chip em
Saw has a 25" bar I dont know what to push it too that's why I am asking? other sites dont recomend any thing bigger.I dont know why?I ve just read the Carlton book on their chains but that doesnt help with chain selection only sharpening and matinence
What chain should I order and should I worry about Skip chain yet or wait for a bigger bar ?
I ll give this one a miss for abit and cut cants for a bit I thnk
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25th June 2010, 10:00 PM #6
good onya
i would put up to a 40" bar on a 660 for slabbing. it wont cut fast at that length but you can never have to bigger bar.
i would run single skip on it it makes a big diferance. make it up ya self dont buy it it works out mutch cheeper.
i would steer clear of the carbide chain if i were you i run it on my mortising saw (ms210) for making post and rail fences but it is a pita to sharpen at that size.
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29th June 2010, 07:38 AM #7Intermediate Member
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29th June 2010, 07:43 AM #8Intermediate Member
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29th June 2010, 08:20 AM #9I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
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29th June 2010, 09:18 PM #10
NO!!!!!!!
Allan is right if you remove every second you wil end up with -
L, _, L, _, L, _,L
if you leave 2 then remove 2 you end up with all leading teath on one side. witch will cause the chain to pull.
L, R, _, _, L, R, _, _, L, R, _, _,
you need to leave 2 and remove 1. so you end up with opposing leading teath.
L,R, _ , R,L, _, L,R, _ R,L
teh trick is to always remove an odd number of teath.
on my lucas i run 3 skip, L, R, _, _, _, R, L _, _, _, L,R, _, _, _,
clear as mud
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30th June 2010, 07:21 AM #11Intermediate Member
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1st July 2010, 08:57 PM #12
All good guys worked it out the first time. All under control
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2nd July 2010, 01:54 AM #13.
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Wow - that is a nice little selection of trees you have there!
12" is on the small side for CS milling and you will end up turning a lot of the log into sawdust - but I guess if they are going to be dumped anyway what does it matter - what I tend to do with these is just to break then down to managable sizes with the CS mill and then use a bandsaw after that.
Saw has a 25" bar I dont know what to push it too that's why I am asking? other sites dont recomend any thing bigger.I dont know why?I ve just read the Carlton book on their chains but that doesnt help with chain selection only sharpening and matinence
What chain should I order and should I worry about Skip chain yet or wait for a bigger bar ?
I ll give this one a miss for abit and cut cants for a bit I think
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