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    Default One day lad, All this will be yours

    Glad it is not too hot now for milling.

    I have just stuffed my back and going in for an op next week so my chainsawing is on hold for a while. What was very pleasing for me as a dad, was my 15 yo is now very good with the 066.

    I bought a large jarrah burl a couple of weeks ago, couldn't use the saw, but the lad was happy to do it for me.

    He has used the chainsaw lots of times, and is a fair lump of a lad and growing.

    I told him what I wanted out of the burl (for turning and carving blanks), he did the rest, even cut them straight. I was impressed. He then decided to cut the trunk up for firewood, then asked the owner of the lot if he had a splitter. He then split the rest and stacked into a mates ute for him. This without being told!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also chopped two very large peppermint gums down 2 weeks ago (which stuffed my back).
    He did a heap of chainsawing, but whenever the saw needed fuel, lube or sharpening, the lad does it all, whilst dad has a rest. I even caught cleaning the air filter between chopping sessions. How good is that!

    My mate also bought a $100, electric saw from masters. It was a WORKS, I think. Crikeys it worked well for crosscutting wet timber. It did tons of work and is still going!

    Despite my mate having older kids than me, they couldn't be seen whilst work was being done. My two kids worked brilliantly, restores my faith in Ipad playing, Itune listening, reebok wearing, train spraying youth of today.

    Now, as the saying goes, No photos- It didn't happen, so I have attached a couple of photos.

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    Hey Willy,

    Awesome job mate, Is that where we went and looked at that wood a while back with my BIL ??,

    Good job by the Boy , after reading the Local paper here today, there are a few young fellas around here, who could take a leaf out of his book.

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    There are lots of good kids out there, you just need to know where to look.

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    Kids will continue to amaze us if we set the bar high enough for them.
    Those that fail to perform, have their significant adult role models setting the bar too low.
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    I have 2 girls 21 and 26. The younger one did, and passed, 2 Tafe Courses via correspondence and is doing work experience while waiting for job to come her way, The older one pushes a tea cart around a nursing home giving out morning and afternoon teas or offsiding in the kitchen and loves it. Both at one time or another have come with me to do carpentry jobs. To their credit when they are in a work situation they just get in do it!
    A work ethic seems to be something they just have. I don't know whether they "learned it" from me or not. I inherited it from my dad I'm sure. While ever the sun was in the sky he was always doing something. He would come in at the end of the and flop into his chair and "I'm done", he would sit there for a short time and then head off to the shower. Dad was finished for the day. He ended up in a nursing home with dementia for several years before he died at the age of 93.
    I am sure he would be proud of his 2 grand daughters, I know I am!
    Just do it!

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    Hello Harry
    Yes, that is the source of the burl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willy Nelson View Post
    My two kids worked brilliantly, restores my faith in Ipad playing, Itune listening, reebok wearing, train spraying youth of today.
    Willy

    You can forgive them heaps when they get in and do a bit even if you don't agree with everything they do.

    That trick of standing on your side in the second pic is very unusual, but I think it may have contributed to your back injury. I trust your back is repairing.

    Actually it looks as though that may have been quite a tight spot for felling with little room for error.

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    That's a good story.

    Generally there is a not very active person that get a bad attitude and all are judged by that one person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum View Post
    Kids will continue to amaze us if we set the bar high enough for them.
    Those that fail to perform, have their significant adult role models setting the bar too low.
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    No s..t to that story, very well put SG

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    Hello Paul, yes, you are right, but the yard is a good size, and I removed all weight on one side to ensure it fell as planned. I also put a rope and a machine to ensure direction. These trees are absolute buggers though and huge.

    The photo doesn't show the full size of the tree, or the fact that it was quite rotten and essentially maintained U shape of decent timber (you could see through the tree!!!)

    However, the trunk consisted on 8 separate limbs, sure did make for interesting felling. My mate, who has no experience in trees, chainsaws or felling got quite frustrated with me for being damn sure that everything went as planned (at times 3 ropes on some limbs). The only time it went wrong was when he went ahead a dropped a branch that I was very sure would hit the neighbours TV aerial. He went ahead and yes it did. We had to climb up and fix his aerial, which is the last thing you want to do after a hard day chopping.


    Oh, yeah to avoid conflict on this forum, I decided not to mention that the tree had a 23.657 deg lean to the south

    Ha HA, yeah, I make a cute little girl. She is the gymniast, but armed with a blocksplitter, her girly overalls and determined Can Do attitude, she will go far! (EDIT- Whoops, you said second pic, I thought you were being cheeky and mistaking me for the girl with the crowbar)




    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Willy

    You can forgive them heaps when they get in and do a bit even if you don't agree with everything they do.

    That trick of standing on your side in the second pic is very unusual, but I think it may have contributed to your back injury. I trust your back is repairing.

    Actually it looks as though that may have been quite a tight spot for felling with little room for error.

    Regards
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    each year at Chrisy i have a bunch of sydney sider friends with their ipad kids visit. I put on a big show with bon fires and double the kids on my dirt bike all afternoon. gives me a chance to burn some rubbish off, and it's nnormally built before they arrive. I asked one kid to stop asking to ride the bike and help build the fire this year. His reply was ' i don't want too'. There was no double for him this year. I hope my 2 1/2 yo boy ends up like yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willy Nelson View Post
    Ha HA, yeah, I make a cute little girl. She is the gymniast, but armed with a blocksplitter, her girly overalls and determined Can Do attitude, she will go far! (EDIT- Whoops, you said second pic, I thought you were being cheeky and mistaking me for the girl with the crowbar)
    No I wouldn't do that to you. I deliberately refrained from making any comments about the young lady, whom I too thought looked both cute and, with that crowbar, very capable. (My well-meaning asides have been mis-interpreted before

    Interesting that your mate broke the neighbours aerial. I hope he was suitably contrite after such a stuff up.

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    You've done a good job raising your kids Willy definately something to be proud of.

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    Mate, having your son along side is absolute gold!
    Don't for one minute think I am disagreeing with what you are doing re your son's chainsaw usage, but where do we stand legally in the event of said person under 18 using a chainsaw? I wonder if there is any specific workcover ruling on such?
    My son, who is only 12 at the moment, obviously too young, is asking when I will teach him to use a saw. At this point I simply say "when you can start it yourself", but given that his mother has a "wrap them in sterile cotton wool" approach to boys I do wonder where I will stand legally when the day comes that I do start to teach him.
    Any thoughts???

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    Hello Karl

    Hmmmm, maybe a can of worms.
    My approach is based upon the maturity of the people or kids involved. Being ex Navy, I always provide them with a stern briefing beforehand, all the theory involved, and them watch them like a hawk until they show competence, then watch them like a hawk! Both my kids are very familar with sharp knives for fishing, the use of firearms, Lochlan has driven my 4WD Triton on a mates property as a 14yo.

    Little steps, like riding pushbike to local shops, riding pushbike to mates house, riding push bike to Volleyball, then returning after dark (with lights and stern warning)

    All theses things are as the kids grow up, show maturity and can lose priveleges (or fingers) if they get it wrong.

    I don't have a photo of my daughter on the day using the small electric chainsaw. She declined to use the MS660 as it is too powerful for her.

    This may upset a few people, but I treat kids like I would treat an Able Seaman. I explain to them what is required, Iincrement their use of the tool or job and ensure all steps are explained in great detail. You don't trust them to work unsupervised.

    Also, I used to play a lot of rugby, Aussie rules and box for the Navy. I had free medical and dental. I did not allow my kids to participate in those of activities, too dangerous (yet I let the man child use a chainsaw (Joke)).
    I hope this explains

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