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24th October 2012, 08:36 PM #1
Elm: sap wood, bug deterrant and loose stickers
I slabbed a few nice elm logs this morning but was in a rush to get back to TAFE so haven't removed all of the sap wood and bark yet on some pieces. Would it be safe to leave them like that or is it preferred that I clean them up for proper air drying? BTW: I have already stacked and stickered them because it could be early December before I can get back to them for any length of time.
As for bugs, there have been signs of borers and sightings of white ants around the place where I'm drying. I've heard mention of a Borax solution being used all over the timber to keep the critters at bay. Is that something I should do, particular if the sap wood is staying? I can give the stack a good spray and will be able to get in between the boards with my backpack's spray nozzle (if I'm not pulling it down to resolve my first question).
And lastly, a couple of the slabs have been cut with a sort of dip in them on one side. I guess I changed pressure with the Alaskan or something. Anyway, there are just a few loose stickers in the stack at different points. Should I be looking at making up a few thicker stickers to replace the loose ones (glueing ply/masonite on top), or will the timber be ok as it is?
Cheers.
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25th October 2012, 11:46 PM #2
Can't speak speciffically for elm but as a general practice I would take the bark off, seems lots of the critters lay their eggs just under the bark and the larval stage starts from there, not sure on the sapwood and susceptibility to borers, ususally prof. google will say regards susceptibility.]
If the difference in boards is only a couple of mm's I don't worry too much about packing the stickers, but if the diff. is more like 5 mm I will try to make sure it remains all equal hieght with extra spacers as required.
Pete
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26th October 2012, 01:53 AM #3
The Elm.
Hi All,
I was about to do a job, so I picked this bit of Elm, of about 80mm. x 750mm. looked at the end, & it had a Shake in it. So I cut a bit off, still the Shake.
I ended cutting the whole lot up, so it will go to the fire.
I have struck this type of Elm before, must be a different Species, to the good stuff.
Of course I could have cut it into 16mm x 16mm. for some other jobs, but I have so much, of that size, I will never get to Turn it.
Very Disappointing.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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26th October 2012, 08:33 AM #4
I have a bit of the top of an elm log from a friend of mine that has stacks of various timbers. It had bark all over it. It was perfect underneath. I guess you can be lucky.
anne-maria.
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26th October 2012, 09:11 PM #5
Thanks for the advice folks. I'll go clean up the edges and fix the stickers next week.
I don't know how much use the timber will be. It doesn't seem particularly spectacular in any way at the moment, but I said that about my poplar which has since blown me away with it's beauty when I dressed some of it this week. At least I've got a few years to figure out what I can do with the elm
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28th October 2012, 01:52 PM #6Intermediate Member
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The product you mentioned Borax or similar is available from most good hardware stores and is mixed with kerosene. This does a great job in ridding the wood of borers and similar Also works very well on silky oak. Elm is a fantastic timber to use and is easy on the tools but giving a great finish. Talk to Wood Wood on these forums and he could tell you mor. Good luck and once you use it you will be a conveted one also.
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28th October 2012, 04:17 PM #7Hewer of wood
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I've turned some English elm out of a mature or over-mature tree in a Melb. park.
The sapwood was cream and the rest a lovely choc. brown. With a bowl the contrast was spekky ... but with some exposure to light (and maybe oxidation) it all turned to a boring dark beige.
Have roughed out some bowls from green timber and they've been pretty stable in drying.Cheers, Ern
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