Thread: Nothing really exciting but was very tiring for my poor legs

No thanks, too much like hard work

Yep steep allright.
Would be very interested in knowing how you ( or anyone else ) recover logs from that sort of terain.
Seems around here every decent log is on the side of a mountain.
I've given some thought to making a sled out of 12mm plate with a curled up front ( like a water ski ) with winch mounts to scull drag it out.
Got a friend with a brush box 1800 dia that fell on the side of a 30 degree hill.
Even slabbing it on the side of the hill presents a problem in getting the slabs out.

Of course I could just leave it there to rot away.
But the first time I saw it, it hauled back and slapped me accross the face with a gauntlet and said....bring it on.
So bring it on I will.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Barterbuilt

I've given some thought to making a sled out of 12mm plate with a curled up front ( like a water ski ) with winch mounts to scull drag it out.

This is the type of skid plate we used to use.


Ground-Snigging logs at Water Wheel Creek, TAS - YouTube

Originally Posted by Barterbuilt

Yep steep allright.
Would be very interested in knowing how you ( or anyone else ) recover logs from that sort of terain.

With about 20m of chains with shortening hooks and my crane in this case, but shouldn't be to long till I get a 20000 lbs winch fitted which will make it a lot easier.

Originally Posted by Bedford

This is the type of skid plate we used to use.


Ground-Snigging logs at Water Wheel Creek, TAS - YouTube

I've used something similar for snigging logs with a tractor. If you can prevent the front of the log digging in the ground the machine or winch can punch (snig) well above it's weight.

When a straight pull is not available a sheave block attached to a convenient tree is a way around the problem, but requires wire rope rather than chains.

I wonder where that plate of mine went. I haven't seen it for years .

Regards
Paul

Hi Andrew,
We were told here in the Geelong Area, Vic. not to touch B/B, as it is full of Silicone.
They actually have Streets of it, on the Nature strips.
So I have left it alone.
Just my 2sense worth.

Originally Posted by issatree

Hi Andrew,
We were told here in the Geelong Area, Vic. not to touch B/B, as it is full of Silicone.
They actually have Streets of it, on the Nature strips.
So I have left it alone.
Just my 2sense worth.

Issatree

I think it is more likely you meant this stuff:

slica 1.jpg

Which results in problems like this which you have correctly pointed out:

silica 2.jpg

In fact there are a number of timbers which are potentially really nasty. Silky Oak is another.

Some timbers just cause dermatitis or other allergic reactions (Cyprus pine affects me if I work with it all day). The trick is to wear adequate PPE or steer away all together if the consequences are too serious.

Thanks for alerting us.

Regards
Paul

That's a wicked bit of country DJ, I know first hand how hard it is to show the 'slope' in a pic - doesn't seem much in a picture, but to see your pics looks like it must be mountain goat country.

One of the main reasons, "good, large" trees are in this kind of country is because they have been passed over in previous timber hauling operations. The timber from tree's growing on these kinds of slopes has a bunch of problems with tension and in the past there where much easier, better yielding logs available.

Good luck DJ

Sorry for the hijack.

Bedford, that's almost what I had in mind.

DJ A 20000lb winch sounds like a hurter.
Any idea on it's limitations. ie tonnage and degree of incline using the above mentioned sled?

Issatree, silicone is god's gift to man except when using a chainsaw, bit harsh on the chains.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Barterbuilt

I've given some thought to making a sled out of 12mm plate with a curled up front ( like a water ski ) with winch mounts to scull drag it out.

Originally Posted by Barterbuilt

Sorry for the hijack.

Bedford, that's almost what I had in mind.

6 mm plate would be thick enough, keeping in mind you have to carry it to the log etc.

Originally Posted by Barterbuilt

DJ A 20000lb winch sounds like a hurter.
Any idea on it's limitations. ie tonnage and degree of incline using the above mentioned sled?

The winch I'm looking at is exactly the same as what did this job, I'll be buying his spare one, as he has now sold his truck.

20000lbs. Now that's a winch. Quite a tree too in the old thread. You wouldn't be winching that up any hills even with a steel sled.

Regards
Paul

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Nope still not big enough. Cheaper than I thought they would be though.

Who wants to hazard a guess as to how much power it would take to scull drag a 10T log up a 30 degree hill with a sled and without a pulley arrangement. Come on humour me. Yes I know I'm delusional.

Andrew