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Thread: one for the falling experts.
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5th November 2010, 06:37 PM #31Member
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hey Weisy what did he sting ya for the course
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5th November 2010, 07:02 PM #32Member
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Weisy when did they start making refresher courses compulsory? When i did mine (cert 3 advanced) forestry told me as long as you have not left the industry for more than 5 years the certificate was still valid any longer than that and you had to do it again.
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5th November 2010, 07:12 PM #33
been like that a wile mate, they dotn check it to much but if something happends or tehy do an audit you have to have done refreshers. tehy dont have cert 123 now just intermediate and advanced and advanced harvesting.
if you have advanced you can fall a tree but as soon as you cut a log out of it you need harvesting. that is because someone fallign for clearign dosent hve to worrie about damagin the log where as if your harvesting for a mill you have to keep teh log in good nic.
$375 it cost. most trainers are up to 500 or so for the same thing. i have also done, operate portable sawmill, conduct a loader, trim crosscut, maintain chainsaw, OH&S, Enviromental thing.
you also need the OHS and Environmental ones to work in forestry.
Iv known jack forever, he is good mates with my father, tehy used to work together a bit.
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5th November 2010, 07:27 PM #34
This is a really good point. Even plantation trees have a slight variation in them which means that you ave to fall them slightly different or at least with a conscious thought that THIS one is not the same as LAST one
Absolutely
Btw I have been using Fiskars Axe's and Splitters as my tools of choice when it comes to cutting/splitting wood or knocking a wedge in. Any thoughts?
Cheers
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5th November 2010, 08:17 PM #35Member
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Did all my certs (advanced harvesting,environmental,oh&s,conduct skidder opperations) a while back with Ian Mcleoud from cairns (top bloke certanly knows his stuff) when working in forestry,haven't been working in there for a bit so sounds like things have changed a little.
might have to get that number of you Weisy , will he travel or do i have to go to him? are the forestry still doing the 1A accreditation? (dam i hated those 40 log samples)
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5th November 2010, 10:05 PM #36SENIOR MEMBER
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I would like to use a sledge for wedging but as pointed out above it drops production, when falling in overgrown steep country too much gear just slows you down too much, this is what is normally carried around here, fuel & oil, axe, & on your belt ; one alloy wedge, file, chainsaw spanner, on the dozer another wedge, axe along with water is carried. A 14lb sledge is in the back of the tray for using on the cable cutter.
regards inter
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5th November 2010, 10:43 PM #37
to my knowledge the forestry did away with all there certs but im not sure.
jack dosent travel anymore, but he is only in mt crosby west brisbane.
i carry, hammer, and chainsaw, 2 wedges, and spanner on the belt.
i fill my saw when i leave in the morning, dozer/snigger driver has fuel on board. a tank of fuel will give me about 30 or so trees.
if the dozer has to wait wile you fall a tree then you either got really really short snigs or you ain't falling fast enough. a bloke should be able to fall a lot more than can be snug in a day.
anyhow you obviously know better than everyone else intre so im not gunna argue.
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5th November 2010, 11:18 PM #38SENIOR MEMBER
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6th November 2010, 08:59 AM #39GOLD MEMBER
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life and death
I know this is a life and death discussion and therefore is serious.
A lot of us are enjoying this thread and realising that we are pleased with our office jobs
But at the same time, we have a lot of regard for all of you forum regular respondents and I've got to state I'm a little upset, even disturbed that some comments and interactions in this thread sometimes appear a little niggly, even nasty (seeking to be diplomatic here).
None of us are the font of all knowledge (although sometimes after a few beers reckon I know quite a lot).
We can all learn from each other and hopefully well meant and serious comments can assist in changing work practices and ideas, that is what forums are about.
You are all 'mates' with a common interest.
Accept none of us are perfect......and finally as I get off my low horse....you can catch more ants with sugar than with salt.
Regards
Greg
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6th November 2010, 09:12 AM #40
Need somebody to cut on a forestry block for me,good access,plantation format,soft timber! They (forestry) reckon it is too steep for their automated cutter,so it has to be done manually.Anyone interested?
Mapleman
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6th November 2010, 10:00 AM #41GOLD MEMBER
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I wholeheartedly agree with Greg's comments.
We are all here with a common goal and interest and in my humble opinion there is no place for sarcastic or personal comments. After viewing some of the replies to topics I would imagine that an inexperienced member would be very reluctant to contribute or ask a question lest they be subjected to such treatment.
Obviously there will be different terms and approaches state by state as timber, equipment and topography will vary.
The one common theme is to never underestimate the potential dangers and to plan your attack so to speak.
Often it seems the fatalities that occur are either the very inexperienced or the very experienced.
I am no expert, but can put a tree where I want it and am still walking to tell the tale. I am quite willing to learn from other members, but please let's raise the tome of the debate a little.
Respect to all.
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6th November 2010, 10:46 AM #42.
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Just a reminder that if you feel strongly enough about a specific post you can always report a post and let the mods handle it. A number of posters in this forum have already been asked to tone it down from time to time (they know who they are ) and a couple more reminders and they might find themselves in the sin bin, or in the reserves for a while.
After viewing some of the replies to topics I would imagine that an inexperienced member would be very reluctant to contribute or ask a question lest they be subjected to such treatment.
Another thing for everyone to note is we are not all "pro-millers", or "once were pro-millers" or "amateurs", or "wanna-be-amateurs" and so will not need to operate in the same way. The experienced posters should have worked this out by now and should be taking this into account when posting i.e. where possible explain things using appropriate language and post to our broad audience, not just to your own kind.
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6th November 2010, 02:28 PM #43
pm sent maple man.
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6th November 2010, 03:39 PM #44Senior Member
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I've scarfed a few trees in the tree lopping industry....but what is a strap cut? ......I might know it by a different name....
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6th November 2010, 03:54 PM #45.
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I think it's really called a "back cut" that uses a strap - but I could be wrong ?
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