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27th June 2013, 11:26 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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I hate slabs.
I hate slabs (not the ones that come from the coldroom) because:
The market is oversaturated with small stuff. I rarely cut a slab under either 600 wide for a long one, or 900 wide for shorter (under 3m) lengths anymore because they just don't pay.
Anything bigger then that is going to be heavy and my back complains because it always involves some manual lifting somewhere.
I can't sticker and stack to the rafters. No two are ever the same size and they take up a lot of shed space.
I can't just bang them in the kiln to dry. They need air seasoning, so they tie up that aforementioned shed space forever.
Then you need to find a buyer. On big slabs it's a fair dollar investment by the time its cut, stored, seasoned, and surfaced. And I find people will pay for them, but you got to find the right buyer for the right slab. Up here, less population and all that... that can take a while. More seasoning and cluttering up shed space
I like slabs because....
sometimes I gets pretty pictures to share.
One of the last of our Yasi logs going into the top, place where stuff goes to get it out the way, shed. A raintree/ monkey pod, around ten foot long and trimmed across the flared ends to get it through the lucas slabber. When green the 966 loader couldn't pick it up. Left to lie down the back of the yard till the bark fell off to prevent cracking in front of the cut as they are prone to do green.
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27th June 2013, 11:48 AM #2
I agree with you. Finding the right buyers is the hard part so it is a risk. Those are beautiful slabs.
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27th June 2013, 12:04 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Yes, they are. Problem with raintree is it (a) cracks in front of the cut when sawing and (b) springs, bows, warps, cups and twists during resawing. Letting it partially season as a whole log for a few years seems to alieviate some of this, but not always. So it's only basicly good for turning blanks and slab furniture, I've had no luck at all cutting them into planking.
Only another 5 of the dammed things to go....
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27th June 2013, 12:32 PM #4
Love Raintree
Know what you mean about storage, I am currently building a second double carport, just to store more slabs.Neil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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27th June 2013, 02:48 PM #5Skwair2rownd
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Gotta agree - it's hard to beat a good raintree slab!!!
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27th June 2013, 05:41 PM #6
i to hate slabs.
1. there heavy
2. there a PITA unless everything is perfectly setup
3. you have to store them for 12 months or more
4. everyone who wants to buy a slab has to look at every slab and therefor you have to move every slab, they take teh one tehy want and your left to lift way to frikin heavy slabs back up onto teh stack yourself.
5. your left with a great heap of slabs that noone wants.
thats why when i sold my old mill the slabber went with it and i waved goodbuy to that BS forever.
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27th June 2013, 06:24 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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I just number the ends and take a photo as they come off the saw, thatway I dont have to show every slab to a prospective customer. Also stickering thick enough to take fork tynes helps with the handling. Shed space is always an issue .
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27th June 2013, 08:25 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I try to avoid slabs where possible, we're a scantling mill. Slabs and rainforest cabinet timbers generally speaking are cream - nice when you can get it but I'd starve to death if I depended on them to make a living. Big raintree's though... and theres a monster down the back of the yard that's 16m3 and has a small end diameter of 2.3m ... I'll slab them. Sometimes I put one in, take a few slabs then shove it aside and come back a month later for a few more. Would have been a waste to see them go through a chipper.
I've got a deal with a couple of cabinet makers who are regular customers... I put a price on a slab and send it to their place. They put a bit on top if they want to, lean it against a wall, and their customers get to look at them. Sooner or later someone buys it, we get paid and my customer gets a job building something with the slab. It works.
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27th June 2013, 08:54 PM #9Skwair2rownd
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You don't happen to send slabs to that little place just outside Mosman do you??
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27th June 2013, 09:23 PM #10Senior Member
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Mill visit?
G'day John. Ive been putting my 10 cents into the blade/band debate on the milling thread and saw this post. There are certainly some impressive raintrees up there. My 'monster' pales in comparison - 1.6m L.E.D, 1.3m S.E.D X 16m clear Gympie messmate. Where are you in FNQ? I have a mate who lives up at Julatten and often visit. I'd love to see your set-up when I'm up there next.
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28th June 2013, 10:09 PM #11Senior Member
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Slabs are great when.....
Hi all.
Your comments on the slabs are interesting, and I have a different outlook.
I find slabs are worth cutting if....
-they are potential dining table tops, around the 1m+ wide.
-they have clean, relatively straight edges with little taper.
-they have minimum defect and no splits
-they have plenty of natural feature, such as birdseye or fiddleback.
-they are racked properly, with sticks just thick enough for fork tines.
I have found too many people just cut slab after slab, through defects, shakes, splits, rot holes, etc. They do look great off the saw, but there is only so much natural feature grade that can be sold. With defects and odd shapes, it can limit your timber to the lower end of the market and then have trouble selling them. If you try and only cut premium grade slabs, you won't have trouble selling them for a fair price.
I air dry my redgum slabs for five years before making them available for sale. I have had many people eye off a great slab in the rack, but I refuse to sell it until it has had it's five years of drying. Some may say this is a little over the top, but I like to know my customers and their clients will be completely happy with the end result, and return in the future.
I rack my slabs outside in the shade, the pack wrapped in hessian and capped with a tarp to keep it dry. Only once they are dry do they come into the shed.
Anyway just few thoughts, but keep the sawdust flying.
Cheers
James
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28th June 2013, 11:17 PM #12
Love em
I love em when they turn out like this curved raintree slab. Inside outside servery with closed windows.
I did this for my son's patio and he loves it."The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.. it can't be done.
If you deal with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you run.
And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better"
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29th June 2013, 10:06 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Home is outside Malanda, so not that far away from Julatten. There's usually a few cube of cabinet timber there awaiting shipment, but the-shed-that wives-hate-husbands-to-visit lest they come home with a car load of goodies is outside Tully - call it half way to Townsville, near enough.
Give me as much notice of a visit as you can, I tend to be hard to catch up with at times during the dry.
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29th June 2013, 11:11 AM #14
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