Thread: Himalayan Cedar Price

pay the cartage costs or something toward the felling cost if you feel obliged but otherwise i wouldn't pay anything because the owner has to remove them anyway and if they have any limbs in the sawlog they wont mill out to useable timber anyway or they'll be better slabbed up

Depends what you are going to do with it. It looks like pine but it lasts very well unlike pine. I was given a 6m x 1m log but don't know what to do with it. Some pay $5/cube but that is far too cheap.

Cedarus Deodar is naturally is anti insect so is used in the internals of storage trunks and cupboards for clothing and linen, and is particularly useful in confined area storage like fancy boats and caravans but even the internals of a wardrobe or chest of drawers will benefit .

It is very pleasant to work it and mill because it smells fantastic and being quite soft it mills up very quickly. Value wise it depends if you have a ready buyer or not. If it sits around in your yard for years without being sold it uses up money.

I agree with charlsie - offer something to wards the felling/cartage/cleanup.

It can ooze out resin for years so I would be relutant to put clothes on it. Or can this be stopped?

Originally Posted by glenn k

It can ooze out resin for years so I would be relutant to put clothes on it. Or can this be stopped?

Can say that I have seen it ooze (well neither of my two logs are doing that) - although the fact that is oozes resin is probably why it is insect repellent.
The wood should be well dried and sealed with a sanding sealer and drawers should be lined with paper. I think in wardrobes they just use it on the backs/sides of the wardrobes rather than the actual shelves. Same in chests.

I have a slab, 3m long * 0.8m wide and around 75mm thick, with natural bark from end to end on both edges. Cost me $100 thicknessed and dressed. It is very stable no twisting and very true with straight edge. Yet to work out exactly what I am going to do with it. Bar top?? Table??

Who knows??

pay the cartage costs or something toward the felling cost if you feel obliged but otherwise i wouldn't pay anything because the owner has to remove them anyway and if they have any limbs in the sawlog they wont mill out to useable timber anyway or they'll be better slabbed up

The tree doesn't really need to come down but there are a stack of pines that do. These are being felled to give clear access for a house to be built. The two cedars and also three douglas fir and a redwood are some distance from where the new house is going.

I've got the impression that the owner isn't really fussed about whether they come down or not. I tried to convince him to leave them because they are beautiful trees. However, the guy dropping the pines has a reputation for plunder and I suspect that he will attempt to drop the lot and grab the timber.

If I can offer the owner a fair price for the logs there is an excellent chance that the pirate won't get them for free and the trees will be left standing. Alternatively I will get a stack of timber at a fair price with which to play.

For comparisons sake I can get redwood logs delivered for $50m3. I would have thought the cedar would be worth more than that and the douglas about the same. The butt log on the cedars are clean (5-7m) while the douglas have a few branches which will lower the quality.

Find out what the tip fees are and offer to cover those... This way when the arborist offers to take it away "FREE" to avoid adding tip fees to the bill - Not only does the owner not get charged $$$, he also get $$$ WIN -WIN..
You could also point out it would probably end up mulched or made into firewood, and what a shame this would be... One thing I found is instead of saying $50 a cube or $80 a log etc... it might be worth offering a large $$$ amount for the lot as it is easier to understand $500 then $50/ per cubic meter of useful tree ('cause you will always get the question "well how big is that...?" or "So how much is that tree over there worth..." etc) .

M2CW

If the area is Lyonville near Daylesford /Trentham, are there no tree protection ordinances or tree removal permits required? I have been in the position of salvaging timber and when prepared for sale almost all woodies want the wood for zero therefore, I suggest you offer to take it for zero as you are doing the owner a favour. You still need to get the wood broken down etc. This is very similar to people who have a palm tree that they want to sell. When transplanting a large palm can cost $3000 to get out of the ground and on to a low-loader, no one wants to pay to buy.

Killing unnecessarily and then wasting the resource through improper processing is never a good thing. I agree with one reply that there is some good wood out there.

And Cedrus deodar is Indian Cedar and it doesn't ooze resin, especially if you season it over four to ten years.

Ivan Earl

good saw logs are fetching $100-$150 a cube delivered to the mill in qld.

What species of wood?

that is a geeral price for hardwood and things like silky oak and araucaria.

Originally Posted by ivanearl

If the area is Lyonville near Daylesford /Trentham, are there no tree protection ordinances or tree removal permits required? I have been in the position of salvaging timber and when prepared for sale almost all woodies want the wood for zero therefore, I suggest you offer to take it for zero as you are doing the owner a favour. You still need to get the wood broken down etc. This is very similar to people who have a palm tree that they want to sell. When transplanting a large palm can cost $3000 to get out of the ground and on to a low-loader, no one wants to pay to buy.

Killing unnecessarily and then wasting the resource through improper processing is never a good thing. I agree with one reply that there is some good wood out there.

And Cedrus deodar is Indian Cedar and it doesn't ooze resin, especially if you season it over four to ten years.

Ivan Earl

Don't want to be too picky but Himalayan Cedar is some times called Deodar Cedar but its botanical name is Cedrus deodara.
The oozing resin maybe specific to pieces of wood or particular trees. I have pine (radiata) studs that ooze resin on hot days after 15 years they were cut from a very old pine that was badly damaged in the 1939 fires.

Originally Posted by weaver

The tree doesn't really need to come down but there are a stack of pines that do. These are being felled to give clear access for a house to be built. The two cedars and also three douglas fir and a redwood are some distance from where the new house is going.

I've got the impression that the owner isn't really fussed about whether they come down or not. I tried to convince him to leave them because they are beautiful trees. However, the guy dropping the pines has a reputation for plunder and I suspect that he will attempt to drop the lot and grab the timber.

If I can offer the owner a fair price for the logs there is an excellent chance that the pirate won't get them for free and the trees will be left standing. Alternatively I will get a stack of timber at a fair price with which to play.

For comparisons sake I can get redwood logs delivered for $50m3. I would have thought the cedar would be worth more than that and the douglas about the same. The butt log on the cedars are clean (5-7m) while the douglas have a few branches which will lower the quality.

Do you know how much this plunderer will be paid for the job. Just undercut him IF you have the ability to cut them down and take them for yourself.

Would also be interested in the redwood