holdign small logs (slabing)

**Arthur Dyason** · 25th April 2009, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by weisyboy

it was 200-300mm diamiter by 1.8m long.

i have no trouble holdign smal ones hen cutting with the balde but the slabber puts a heap of sideways force on the log.

Carl

bring a couple of small logs upto Malaney next week (one for your Lucas and one for my EcoSaw) and you can have a play on both and maybe get some ideas on how to mod the Lucas or your dogging system.

The reason the Lucas and Peterson slabbing systems give a lot of side movement is the mill is not attached to the log like most CS mills are. If the mills is attached to the log then any side forces are uses in the cutting power of the CS mill. Where the side forces are open they waste a lot of cutting power by putting that force into moving the log or mill around.

The EcoSaw CS mill is also a suspended mill like Lucas and Peterson but due to its ability to move the CS upto the side of the log it almost attaches itself to the log and puts the side forces back into the cut similar to using the dogs on your CS when chainsawing. Just try using your chainsaw by only cutting with the centre of the bar and see how much side force is generated as to when you use the dogs. If you position the bar in the centre of the log so the CS is not up hard on the log you get the same movement problems of Lucas and Peterson.

Have a play with the EcoSaw CS and you might be able to come up with a stabilizer system (adjustable dogs) to attach to your Lucas which has the same end result as our CS milling system. The EcoSaw CS Mill has bearings CS side of the bar which act as rolling dogs on the log, I have never seen dogs on the Lucas and Peterson but then I havnt looked too hard.

**741Baus** · 25th April 2009, 01:52 PM

Carl you could perhaps use some thing like these Gripper Dawgs
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**BobL** · 25th April 2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by 741Baus

Carl you could perhaps use some thing like these Gripper Dawgs
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Ho Ho Ho! I'll be making some of those !!!

**weisyboy** · 25th April 2009, 05:30 PM

i got these lying around someware

**rude** · 26th April 2009, 10:51 AM

G'day Carl,

Thought i'd post a pic of the dogs i use for small logs,there also made from aluminium so are a lot softer than steel if you happen to cut too low

.I just sat this small round on the bearers to show how well it holds when your bearers have notches also.I use the same system as metricky by tapping a spike in at each end of the bearer to hold it in place or you could go streight through it after pre drilling a couple of holes,at least that way there is a couple of less things to potentially trip over

Yet another project for you bob

**Sigidi** · 26th April 2009, 12:05 PM

Rude, they are very very similar to Petersons EZ dogs... hmmm (mind you Petersons are very expensive for what they are)

Carl, why don't you just hold the log on the exit side with your iron bar and move your bar up as you go, then put it behind the bar when you're close to the end, works fine for me?? This way you're still standing at the controls and you can see everything plus are in control of everything still.

**BobL** · 26th April 2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by rude

G'day Carl,

Thought i'd post a pic of the dogs i use for small logs,there also made from aluminium so are a lot softer than steel if you happen to cut too low

.I just sat this small round on the bearers to show how well it holds when your bearers have notches also.I use the same system as metricky by tapping a spike in at each end of the bearer to hold it in place or you could go streight through it after pre drilling a couple of holes,at least that way there is a couple of less things to potentially trip over

Yet another project for you bob

Bloody nice mate! I like em

Another one to add to the project list!

The clamp part could also be made out of steel and the dog part out of brass (be a bit exy - have to scrounge around for some 6mm brass

**rude** · 26th April 2009, 01:11 PM

Yeah that would work bob,good luck finding the brass.Yes sigidi,they do look like peterson ez dogs and your right,there not cheap,but i can say that for ease of setup and the safety aspect they have already paid for themselves.I like the fact that there so simple and work just as good on large logs.

**Sigidi** · 27th April 2009, 01:47 AM

Rude, did you get a set of four or just a pair of dogs?
and if you don't mind me asking how much did they end up costing you?

**rude** · 27th April 2009, 10:37 AM

Hey Sigidi,

i ended up getting four of them(two pair) and after looking at the invoice they charge 50bucks each but luckily they only charged for two.I agree that 50bucks is a bit steep,25$ is closer to the money. they do supply a couple of spare dogs atleast.
Rude.

**Sigidi** · 27th April 2009, 10:42 AM

Geese really?

I looked at them when they first came out about 2 years ago and seem to recall it's cost me around $500 for a set of 4 including postage.

I'd contacted a fella about making some for me, but if they are only $200 for 4 then that's not so bad, but I can't see them costing that much to make???

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