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9th November 2013, 05:53 PM #1
Looking at and quoting timber blocks.
we have recently been looking at a few blocks of land and putting in a price on the timber to be harvested.
teh first was a block at cominya mainly spotted gum with skattered ironbark and qld bluegum.
we did some test cuts, witch shower good wood in most logs some of the spottys had gum rings but would still make structural timber just not boards.
there is an estimated 1800 - 2000m3 of log on this 200 acre property worth milling, mostly arround 3-450mm at the but.
we were greeted by a slippery local resident that didnt take kindly to the idea of sawmilliers in the area.
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i think allan has some pics to add to this job...
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8" & 10" Lucas Mills, bobcat, 4wd tractor, 12 ton dozer, stihl saws.
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9th November 2013, 05:57 PM #2
the second was a 1000 acre mixed hardwood and cypress block out near inglewood.
it had good stands of 6-10" cypress logs that looked very clean and would produce good timber, along with narrow and broad leafed ironbark along teh ridges, only fairly small in diameter but would make great posts or feature timbers for squaring.
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www.carlweiss.com.au
Mobile Sawmilling & Logging Service
8" & 10" Lucas Mills, bobcat, 4wd tractor, 12 ton dozer, stihl saws.
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9th November 2013, 10:53 PM #3
Just check you are allowed to clear the blocks before purchasing the land. Good idea though, it will keep you busy for a heap of time, just need to have the buyer for the timber
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"there is an estimated 1800 - 2000m3 of log on this 200 acre property worth milling, mostly arround 3-450mm at the but."
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"the second was a 1000 acre mixed hardwood and cypress block out near inglewood.
it had good stands of 6-10" cypress logs that looked very clean and would produce good timber, along with narrow and broad leafed ironbark along teh ridges, only fairly small in diameter but would make great posts or feature timbers for squaring. "
Sounds like a job with Kara written all over it!!!
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10th November 2013, 08:15 AM #5
not buying the land just teh timber.
loggign is allowed under a forest practice on any property in queensland you just have to follow the code.
www.carlweiss.com.au
Mobile Sawmilling & Logging Service
8" & 10" Lucas Mills, bobcat, 4wd tractor, 12 ton dozer, stihl saws.
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10th November 2013, 08:15 AM #6
Wholy crap Neil! ya think we are made of money!!!!! far out mate, we just doin the work, some other people OWN the blocks. If all goes ahead they apply for permits to log and we get stuck into it.
As for a buyer - Carls previous post https://www.woodworkforums.com/f132/f...en-qld-178612/ is the test for a semi load a month with possibility of two per month if we are able to push it out, so the buyer has already been squared awayI love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
Allan.
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10th November 2013, 08:33 AM #7
A few of the pics I had, that Carl mentioned...
Funny looking tree we found while doing the test cuts on the first property...
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Carl showing the scale of this big ol Spotty...
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For perspective I put my 395 (24" bar) at the base of this beauty - tbh I was happy to put it down after lugging it around 200 acres
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And a shot of the area we plan to use as a log dump to load trucks once the logs are cut and snigged
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Allan.
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10th November 2013, 08:34 PM #8
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11th November 2013, 08:06 AM #9
Carl and Al
How would you use 300mm -450mm Spotted gum? My experience of this species it that it has huge growth stress in small sizes. In fact in NSW where I have cut it, I don't bother with anything under 600mm because of this problem.
That doesn't mean to say that Spotted gum in QLD behaves the same way.
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PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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11th November 2013, 08:22 PM #10
I should have added that I saw in your Pratten floorboard thread you were very successful in your recovery from those logs, but they looked larger.
It occurred to me that you may have some other purpose for the smaller diametres such as boxed hearts, power poles etc..
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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13th November 2013, 08:04 AM #11
Hey Paul.
Funny you asked, the timber merchant we are going through said his customer only wants QLD spotty, dunno why sepcifically - it just suits us on that score.
Size-wise, we are salvaging as much as possible from each log, (unlike the previous fella he had on his property - but that is another story akin to MM's "death wish" thread) so the lower/larger diameter log is used for the flooring, if it has heap of gum vein or looks 'unhealthy' then its sleepers for them, and the upper/smaller diameter of the tree is destined for boxing posts.
Carl and I will have to put a few pics up of this place. We might get out there Wednesday next week to get some more pics. I'm not as experienced as Carl, so I will put up a few of my stumps, one bad one where I should have had smoko and had a rest before doing it or I did the old "lower the tip" trick a couple times and didn't keep the bar parallel to the ground, but on the whole I was pleased they went where I wanted/judged - within 2-3 feet and depending on time, we will do some pics of the previous 'work'.
I find it hard to go back to look over someone else's work and criticise it harshly as lots of things come into consideration at the time it was done and more often these are not evident once the tree is down, plus I'm no expert myself, but I think every one on here will look at some of the other handy work and 'lose their cookies'I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
Allan.
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13th November 2013, 10:00 AM #12
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29th November 2013, 08:21 AM #13
So we got back out to this block and I managed to get some pics - but we've been going from 0400 to 2200-2300 most days.
Hired a truck and we did almost 2000k in 2.5 days of hire. Truck was loaded and running as much as we possibly could...
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Waking up in our swags at 0400, breakfast done, cooked and smashed down before sunup. In the truck (that was loaded and tied down the night before under ute lights and bob's spotlights) drive 100k to the new mill yard to drive in the gate at 0700, unload, then drive back and do it all over again....
There where a couple of other spotty loads and another ironbark load, but things where getting tight on times and we ended up smashing through to get done in time to take the truck back.I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
Allan.
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29th November 2013, 08:59 AM #14
Here are some of the other fella's stumps... Some of it I just don't understand...why he even put down most of the trees in the first place, why the stumps where as high as they where, how he didn't die in the process - looking at his stumps and a bunch of what he felled - he left...
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Also thrown in a bunch of my stumps - none are perfect and all need a bit more work, but trees went where they where supposed to (within a few feet) and no damage to any gear or people resulted and all the trees where put down to try and minimise damage to surrounding trees.
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Even if sometimes it was pretty bloody hard...
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Allan.
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29th November 2013, 06:07 PM #15
I have never understood the point of this type of felling cut to try and "steer" a tree. why not use a winch/tirfor as an anchor against the way it wants to go and wedge it over or use another winch to pull it? and looks like she still went away from the hinge on a 45.
great looking load of logs boys wish i could do that down here but can touch a tree standing up without more acrobatics then Cirque du Soleil.
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