Thread: Show us your lucas anty theft device

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heh heh....

That'll work until it doesn't!!!

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

Whilst you might think all that, it can happen and has happened. I suspect they are sold off and used in remote locations or as others have said broken down for parts and scrap.

Yeah Paul. Hence why I suggested that, compared with vandalism etc, it's gonna be 'low risk' rather than 'no risk'.


And I thoroughly agree with your comments about using dogs to protect gear. Leaving a dog unattended on 'guard duties' is just asking for trouble, really. Too much potential liability involved. I'd only use a dog if I was sleeping onsite. It'd be there to wake me, not to do the job for me!

Originally Posted by Catweazle

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heh heh....

That'll work until it doesn't!!!






Yeah Paul. Hence why I suggested that, compared with vandalism etc, it's gonna be 'low risk' rather than 'no risk'.


And I thoroughly agree with your comments about using dogs to protect gear. Leaving a dog unattended on 'guard duties' is just asking for trouble, really. Too much potential liability involved. I'd only use a dog if I was sleeping onsite. It'd be there to wake me, not to do the job for me!

As a young fella I grew up in the far west of NSW. Dogs were an everyday part of life. A good dog was worth at least 4 men if not more. It was standard practice for a dog to be left with a ute or other equipment and told to "watch it." This practice continues today in the bush. Even in the city many tradesmen with utes rely on a dog to look after their gear.
Unfortunately, people who have not much experience with dogs dont know the rules and things get messy. These days you can always find some smart a*** who wants to sue for his own stupidity. I guess thats why we prefer to take our dogs out were we are unlikely to encounter trouble.
Over the years I have seen a lot of yahooing in the bush. Young fellas tend to let off steam when they are out of the laws reach. I have had a ute burnt out, a saddle stolen, a chain saw stolen, a 44gal drum of deisel drained and a camp oven of food devoured and no washing up. Not to mention a bunch of bikies taking an unhealthy interest in my girlfriend at the time. Since the dogs came along, we haven't had any trouble and thats the way we like it.
Asking for trouble? Maybe, but the risk is often justified. Gees I loath bikies!

Originally Posted by weisyboy

i have never chained or locked any of my gear up, i leave it wherever im working. never lock my ute, never lock the gate. saws and tools sit in the tray.

never had anything stolen, on a whole aussies are great people.

Good on you Carl

I am a firm believer in give a little get a little. I would like to think that that is what Australia was built on!!!

Too many people today have a lock for everything they own and have to carry around a wheel barrow full of keys just in case they need to use...
At home here the cars are always unlocked with the keys in them I rarely lock the shed when I go out. The wife does lock every window and door to the house (Much to my disgust) but I do lock the front gate, when we go out. I hate "locked anything".
We have only been locking the front gate for maybe 2 years after a neighbour lost an old motor bike and a saddle and about the same time another neighbour lost a saddle. Puts a nasty taste in your mouth when you think you could have been next, But you have to start to "give" sometime

i used to leave my cruiser ute unlocked at the back of my shop ( daytime ) until i went to get it one day and it had gone awol .
it was found 3 days later behind the pub in tenterfield , the kindly gentlemen from toomelah mission left it there while they pinched another car and went to casino and did an armed holdup lucky for me they were caught in casino because the plan was to come back to tenterfield and dump the holdup car climb back in mine and cruise back to the mission over near bogga in my ute which would then become an artificial reef .

about 2 weeks after i got it back it started making not nice sounds , turned out all the top rings were broken , so they never looked after it very well while they borrowed it .
bit of a harsh joke around town for a while after that was borrow johno's ute he lends it to anyone .

i did hear that the chaps got ten years for the little bussiness trip they went on ,
they would be out now i am still hoping to meet one of them

johno

ps i now lock my new mazda freestyle if i am going more than 20 mtrs from it

Originally Posted by Krunchie

Try this

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Regards
Paul

joke gone bad

Originally Posted by Krunchie

joke gone bad

Sorry. Just finished night shifts. Not at my best.

Regards
Paul

Ok fellas the simple facts are it should be like wiesie says, but the reality is some mongrels will steal the eye out of a needle and that's a fact.

I cut in the bush for 30 years or more and we never lost much gear but then i never left stuff like chainsaws out,we might have lost some fuel .

My dad always says: "Keep honest people honest."

A lock - even the most flimsy lock will keep 99.9% of the looky loo's away from your stuff...

Not much will stop that other 0.1% - as they are the pro's.... They are the ones who will do recon work to figure out when and how they can get your stuff....

I think I would be more worried about vandalism than anything else... There's enough wanna-be tree huggers out there who see a Mill or a chainsaw and assume that you are the devil.... They never think "Oh... That's a good fellow who is milling up a tree downed by a storm or that the Highway department cut out of the road..." There's also enough kids out there who just wanna break other people's stuff.... They never think about the costs of repairing damage... Those kids see a lock and it's an excuse to see if they can break it off....

Personally - I would take it home with me unless there was some way the property owner could assure the safety of my stuff...

Thanks

When i bought my mill,i was going through the process off updating contents insurance to cover it. My broker tried to tell me that "per capita", Lucas mills are the second most stolen item in NSW after the good old Harley Davidson.
I like Carls principle of 'keep honest people honest', but for peace of mind, the large chain and lock that is chemically anchored into the shed slab, helps me sleep better at night.
My wife reckons the inbuilt alarm system should work a treat. Meaning, the untidy state of the shed and all the c$#p that is thrown in there would make it awfully difficult to get the mill out without waking half the neighbourhood.

When on a mobile job -more than a day. I ask the owner if they have stuff go missing, find out what the area is like. If its 1 night I tend to sleep with the mill, start early finish late, then have dinner etc in the dark. If not sleeping with the mill, I work til dark, take the carriage away with me and stuff like chainsaw. I have a kit trunk from the army for all the other gear. I defy 1 person to pick it up on their own it gets locked if I'm not on site. Although like Carl I like to think Aussies are honest -maybe need to watch my gear around the forum

mate locks only keep out honest people.

im not a theif but i know
glass breaks, padlocks open with a light tap from a hammer or twist from a shifter, it takes 30 seconds to unlock a car door without a key, and another minute to have the car running.

only thing ever stolen from the back of my ute was a reep hook and a half axe. i know who took them, and they are not stealing anything in a hurry, atleaste not from me.

Buy a Woodmizer, cant steal a Lucas then can they? Love my Woodmizer, just ask Sigidi

Good point nifty.
And thanks sigidi that is adout what I will do.