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Thread: Milling Black Wattle
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5th December 2009, 03:00 PM #1
Milling Black Wattle
Back home this week and the new saw (Husqvarna 395xp) has arrived from Florida. Took 11days door to door to get here not bad going.
Qantas didn't grumble when I took the Alskan mill on as luggage. I told them it was a type of sporting implement.
Time to get into the first tree, this was a black wattle that had been dead for three and a half years. I think what is called black wattle here is Ac. Melanoxylon or Ac. Leiocalyx have to check it out.
It took an hour to get it pushed over with a 80hp dozer and another hour to trim branches and cut root ball off and move it to the yard.
I didn't want the stump in the gound where it was hence the reason for not just cutting it.
Bit too hot now so I'll get the saw and mill assembled and then have a go at some slabs in the morning. Was thinking about 3" thick is that a good idea or should I go more or less?
Must say I'm looking forward to it, sort of like a kid with a new toy
Looks dry enough I wonder if I should seal lthe ends just in case?
I'll get some pics of my first slabs tomorrow.
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5th December 2009, 07:19 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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sealing the ends before cutting is always a good idea . you need to even the drying out . thickness depends what you are going to use timber for ????give the log a good wash and put it on some bearers , and away you go and go .
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5th December 2009, 07:43 PM #3
I reckon the ends need sealing within an hour of being cut even as a log - so go out and seal them then come back and read the rest.
So now the ends of the log are sealed - i reckon 75mm is too thick unless you have a reason for that.
I cut to 50mm to 55mm under 600 wide and 65mm over 600 wide. This allows for a finished slab (cleaning the saw roughness and a bit of cupping or twist) of about 35 -40 mm (under 600 wide) and about 50 mm for wider slabs.
65mm should almost allow for resaw (thin kerf) to 2 x 1 inch boards.
Remember drying takes about 25 mm per yeart so 75mm over 50mm adds another year to drying time.
Dead for 3 1/2 years and still standing would be that close to totally green it doesnt matter.
Hope that helps
Cheersregards
David
"Tell him he's dreamin.""How's the serenity" (from "The Castle")
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5th December 2009, 07:55 PM #4
I sealed the ends half an hour after putting up the first post, lest I get my fingers rapped
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6th December 2009, 09:39 AM #5
Well done troppo
Be nice to see pics of the slabs when they are slicedI love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
Allan.
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6th December 2009, 09:52 AM #6
nice looking stick.
how big?
what length bar u running on the 97
love teh fiat pitty about teh allis. we have a few fiats machines left (before teh allis) always had them.
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6th December 2009, 10:45 AM #7
7metres by about 600mm at the widest
36" for mill and I got a 24 for cutting. Although feeling the weight of the 395 with the 36"bar makes me think I'll stick with my tried and trusty Husky 55 with 18" for limbing and cutting smaller stuff.
I don't want to finish up with extra long arms
Glad you like the Fiat, they made some nice machinery in their day. We've got a Fiat Tractor too well engineered and built machine, can't seem to kill it!
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6th December 2009, 03:12 PM #8Intermediate Member
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Love to see some pictures of your mill also. What did you seal the ends with?
I havn't got a mill yet so still on steep learning curve, thanks to all you guys
Cheers
Mark.
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6th December 2009, 07:04 PM #9
Looks too light in colour to be blackwood (acacia melanoxynon) looks closer to silver wattle.
This is blackwood https://www.woodworkforums.com/member...llers-my-mill/
this is a little piece I cut freehand out of a rotten log yesterday while looking at several 700mm plus diameter still standing blackwoods which I am going to drop and mill.
The rollers there are the ones I machined up today for my new rail mill I am making.
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6th December 2009, 07:20 PM #10
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6th December 2009, 07:31 PM #11
Nothing WRONG with my reading Ac. Melanoxynon is BLACKWOOD which is actually classified as a wattle. What I was saying is that it is too light in colour to be ac. melanoxynon It may be the other one he stated but I dont believe that it is melanoxynon.
Looks like you should have read my post more carefully calm
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6th December 2009, 07:33 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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yep our northen accias dont become blackwood till they leave qld ,funny that though some of them pass quite well
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6th December 2009, 07:43 PM #13
That aint Acacia melanoxynon
https://www.woodworkforums.com/member...llers-my-mill/
These photos in this link are acacia melanoxynon.
There is no where near enough darkness in the fresh cuts even for a tree that has been dead 3 years
The tree I cut the above linked timber from would have been lying on the ground longer than yours was dead I would suggest that it is the leiocalyx you suggested it may be but it is not melanoxynon.
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6th December 2009, 07:45 PM #14
It is a nice log though!!!
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6th December 2009, 07:54 PM #15
Having had a good look at some books I now think its actually Acacia celsa also called Brown Salwood. Guess Black Wattle covers a multitude of stuff depending on where you are
Acacia celsa - WATTLE
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