Thread: new mobile sawmill, advice and thoughts please

Here's that bite you threw out there Travis...

"Re-engineered Mahoe"?

Mono beam has been out there for a very long time (early 50's?). It's there for the taking as I understand it.

Our beam is very different to the Mahoe equilateral.

Our frame is conceptually so far off from the industry standard H frame as you can take it. Mighty Might, Mobile Dimension and a hand full of other saws employ the same H system (we're on a different mission here).

Our swingblade is a 12" cut. Different beast to whats available in the market today with a whole bunch of extra challenges to over come, including the swiss cheese blades. With out these you'd have some serious challenges flipping the blade in your guys kind of heat. We've also designed the blades to be pivotted with speed using hydraulics.

Countersaw... we've now taken this to Fieldays. HUGE interest. In fact most interest was directed toward this combo rather than our planned introduction of the manual 12" push machine.

We plan on running with 50hp on our future Countersaw models. We've also opted to introduce this saw as a seperate model over our standard Turb-o-saw base unit.

Setworks... full PLC controls are available as add on on both automated options. I'd expect this as a must for high production situations. Accuracy is number 1.

Check out our youtube page for new videos etc from Fieldays.

Fieldays was well worth our efforts! We had interested customers coming from a very long way to look at our saw.
Cheers all.
Jake.

Originally Posted by itsposs

On the bright side the cook told me she might let me have a a husky 395xp on monday so things arnt going to badly

NOOOOO buy an ms660...lol

As for Jake about the turbosaw that is what I was looking to hear. just on the 12 inch cut thing is there a good demand out there for that size of timber? I rarely see much over 8 inches, aside from the odd coffin board which is usually only done by the likes of them other kiwis C,H,&H in pine, granted I like to cut wide boards for making furniture but cutting 1 inch boards you would lose a fair percentage in kerf. which leads to another question what is the kerf of your blades? Oh and what sort of dollars are we looking? I can see it being a good high production machine and recently had one of my customers asking me about the mahoes and told him to have a look at your saw before thinking too hard about it. It would be good to actually see one in the flesh working, but jeez you would not want any log under at least 2 ft diameter and you would want a lot of them.

Do you get a lot that big or bigger up there in qld carl?

Not really Travis Timber cutters can take off farm if over 400mm so most of its gone there are still some big trees but they arnt what sells I am getting a bit Jack Mill Builders using this forum to sell #### too ya wanna ####en advertize ####en pay for it.
Secound to that wanna start slinging #### Turbosaw miller. How many of these things you got on the floor besides the ones you built its over for you guys. None of us have confidence in you after the first time thats the honest truth your machine might be the ducks ####ing nuts but will there be back an service in 10 years time. A spade is a spade

Hi Travis,

12" boards... not too sure as to demand at this stage? Sure good to have the option though I would think. Wide 600 slabs also open the door a bit with doublecutting.

I have in the last 12 years within the sawmilling industry heard a number of requests for a 12" machine. I can see niche markets being explored a little more readily these days.

Kerf... 6.2mm standard on our 12" blade.

4.2mm kerf on our superthin blades (step down collar with 8" cut capacity).

The thin blade is the hardwood option. A bigger dish blade means a larger thin kerf depth capacity. Industry standard at the moment for thin kerf cutting is a 6" limitation. We're up to 8".

There's more advantages to a big blade then meets the eye.

I wouldn't say diameter preference of saw log changes in any degree with either a 6" saw or a 12" saw.

Another standout of our machine over conventional twin saws is that we can take our wide boards in the horizontal rather then 'just' the vertical where your blind as to whats behind each board.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8TPjygvfw4]YouTube - COUNTER SAW UP CLOSE[/ame]

Jake.

there is an interesting selection on farmhub . cheers Bob

Originally Posted by itsposs

Not really Travis Timber cutters can take off farm if over 400mm so most of its gone there are still some big trees but they arnt what sells I am getting a bit Jack Mill Builders using this forum to sell #### too ya wanna ####en advertize ####en pay for it.
Secound to that wanna start slinging #### Turbosaw miller. How many of these things you got on the floor besides the ones you built its over for you guys. None of us have confidence in you after the first time thats the honest truth your machine might be the ducks ####ing nuts but will there be back an service in 10 years time. A spade is a spade

Mate you need to calm down, you dont have the right to speak on behalf of all of us millers. Your expletives take away any credit your post may have. I for one enjoy reading Jakes Turbosaw posts and vids regardless of the fact that I'm never gunna buy one. I'm a miller, I enjoy looking at sawmills. A spade is a spade

I ll be sure to beg for forgivness at Mass next sunday

Lets keep it friendly please guys.

As for advertising etc by Mill Builders, turbosawmill has abided by the rules by doing a one off announcement of his product as per rules and any follow-up posts has actually being in response to questions asked, otherwise he would have had several posts/threads removed.

Apology s DJ's Timber I sould have messaged you first Couldnt think of your handle

Originally Posted by Travis Edwards

NOOOOO buy an ms660...lol

As for Jake about the turbosaw that is what I was looking to hear. just on the 12 inch cut thing is there a good demand out there for that size of timber? I rarely see much over 8 inches, aside from the odd coffin board which is usually only done by the likes of them other kiwis C,H,&H in pine, granted I like to cut wide boards for making furniture but cutting 1 inch boards you would lose a fair percentage in kerf. which leads to another question what is the kerf of your blades? Oh and what sort of dollars are we looking? I can see it being a good high production machine and recently had one of my customers asking me about the mahoes and told him to have a look at your saw before thinking too hard about it. It would be good to actually see one in the flesh working, but jeez you would not want any log under at least 2 ft diameter and you would want a lot of them.

Do you get a lot that big or bigger up there in qld carl?

Sister in law is moving back from Canada (around x mas time) and has an ms880 in the container. But I think I ve gotta change a bit of stuff on it

Just looking at that Rimu site.I really like that breast bench attachment.Think that may be the next project for the Lucas so I can give the poor old 12" saw bench a rest.

If I was going to replace my Lucas (which I'm not) it would be hard to go past a Turbosaw for 2 reasons
1. the rail set-up allow for easy access to the log, I spend a bit of time rolling logs in

2. automation, Carl did say that he was tired of pushing a Lucas back and forth, fair enough, he does a lot of milling and after a while it is boring. But even though it is automatic, you would have to still keep a good watch I recon.

I have not seen it work though, only on you-tube, but I think it's the best thing since Lucas came on the market and that's not to say they won't come up with a auto model themselves, thing is they have not so far.

I love my Lucas as it does all the work that I require, it is about 15 years old and will cut a lot more for me in the future. I do not rely on it for income anymore, thats why I'll hang on to it for a while. If I wanted to get back into comercial milling, Turbosaw for me from what I've seen.
I guess we all have different milling applications, example I can drive right up to my trees, if it's steep ground and difficult, I'll leave it alone where as others need loaders, drotts or tractors etc. The most I use is a tilt trailer (single axle rigid) with a 5 ton hand winch with several pulleys. That goes behind an 06 rodeo 4x4

I am glad that sawmill companies frequent this site, very helpful for us millers
cheers

sorry been away for a week cutting timber.

i will check out teh new vids.

jake could either you or your father please give me a call i have tried emailing you but i cant get it to send.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

a lot of the area where i cut is incredibly steep and covered in granite boulders. so we cant get skidders in to snig the logs out.

instead we either shoot the logs to the gully and snig from there (if we can get a track up the gully. or we set up a winch on the top of the ridge and pull the logs to the top.

I originally read that as shooting the logs down, 1 handle, pull them up from a gully to a ridge, 2 handles, then pull them to a log dump or millsite, 3 handles, which is why I said the 3:1 with a winch machine. In NSW we cant log slopes steeper than 18 degrees with normal extraction methods or use gullies ( first order streams) for snigging along, they have a 5m exclusion zone where no disturbance or logging is allowed or heads of trees may be fallen into, plus a 10m buffer zone beyond that where a percentage of trees maybe felled away from the gully. I would imagine it would be similar in QLD.
regards inter