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    Default just for reference

    This is all very helpful. This table seems to agree with your figures in the 70-75 m/s range when the motor rpm is 3600. mistakes?



    blade blade dia(mm) bladespeed(m/s) blade rpm motor:blade

    Lucas 530___________45.00___________1621.58_____1:0.45
    Lucas 530___________50.00___________1801.75_____1:0.50
    Lucas 530___________55.00___________1981.93_____1:0.55
    Lucas 530___________60.00___________2162.10_____1:0.60
    Lucas 530___________65.00___________2342.28_____1:0.65
    Lucas 530___________70.00___________2522.46_____1:0.70
    Lucas 530___________75.00___________2702.63_____1:0.75
    Lucas 530___________80.00___________2882.81_____1:0.80
    Lucas 530___________85.00___________3062.98_____1:0.85
    Lucas 530___________90.00___________3243.16_____1:0.90
    Lucas 530___________95.00___________3423.33_____1:0.95
    Lucas 530___________100.00___________3603.51_____1:1.00
    Lucas 530___________105.00___________3783.68_____1:1.05
    Last edited by pkbmx; 28th July 2009 at 12:15 AM. Reason: table spacing

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
    i was under teh impersion on teh 8" lucas teh gear box is 1:1
    I checked it when our gearbox killed itself, one rev of the pulley equalled about 4 of 5 teeth

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    Default Swing Saw blade tip speed

    pkbx,
    Good luck with your swing saw project. I designed and built a 5 tooth 550 dia. swing blade saw 15+ years ago. It is still going well.
    I used a Honda 18 hp motor (GX610) with a centrifugal clutch with V belt (3SPA) drive, 125:160 ratio, through a 1:1 gearbox.
    Assuming the motor runs at 2750 rpm (max torque) this gives a blade rpm of 2578. Therefore the tip speed is 61.8 m/s.
    At max motor speed of 3300 rpm the tip speed will be 74 m/s.
    I think that even these conservative speeds may be a little high for some of our very hard timbers like dry grey gum.
    Judging from all the figures given in other replies, my numbers were somewhere close to the mark.
    Regards.
    Bill w.

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    depends on wich lucas saw the 6inch is faster hence it slabs better. 10 & 8 inch would be differing speeds as well. i think the rpm is goverened by the diameter not the nmber of teeth . as my band saw runs the same speed regardless of how many theeth per inch , as the wheels govern the speed . hope this was helpfull cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpigeon View Post
    pkbx,
    Good luck with your swing saw project. I designed and built a 5 tooth 550 dia. swing blade saw 15+ years ago. It is still going well.
    I used a Honda 18 hp motor (GX610) with a centrifugal clutch with V belt (3SPA) drive, 125:160 ratio, through a 1:1 gearbox.
    Assuming the motor runs at 2750 rpm (max torque) this gives a blade rpm of 2578. Therefore the tip speed is 61.8 m/s.
    At max motor speed of 3300 rpm the tip speed will be 74 m/s.
    I think that even these conservative speeds may be a little high for some of our very hard timbers like dry grey gum.
    Judging from all the figures given in other replies, my numbers were somewhere close to the mark.
    Regards.
    Bill w.
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    PKBX, sorry it has taken me a lot longer than I anticipated in putting this pic up.

    Blame Burnsy.... Mike has a lot to answer for regarding the cr@p fight he's dropped me into

    Anyway here's the pic I was talking about posting for you, not sure how well it will come out...



    Oh ok, on preview it came up a lot better than I expected.
    I love my Lucas!! ...just ask me!
    Allan.

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    I checked the RPM on the Bench saw today, 950RPM direct drive to a 32" blade

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkychicken View Post
    I checked the RPM on the Bench saw today, 950RPM direct drive to a 32" blade
    FunkyC,
    That is a 6 pole 3 phase motor, nominal speed 950 rpm, direct driven blade because that is simplest. The tip speed of that blade will be 40.4 m/s. Is it a tipped blade? The other more experienced forum members could tell us for sure, but I think the tipped blades could run with a higher tip speed than the conventional spring (alloy) steel blades.
    I have a couple of inserted teeth (stellite) blades ex "Forestmill" and I have been thinking about setting one of them up on a bench. Another project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpigeon View Post
    Is it a tipped blade? The other more experienced forum members could tell us for sure, but I think the tipped blades could run with a higher tip speed than the conventional spring (alloy) steel blades.
    We run tungsten tipped and spring steel blades

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