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    Default Do You Push A CSM OR Pull it?

    Do You Push A CSM OR Pull it?

    I don't see how you could get kickback on a csm
    but I'd rather be pulling one if I got a kickback
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    Mixture.... some are pushed & some a pulled, depends on the type you have.
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    I'm a pusher, not a puller. The instructions (oddly, I read them) on the Makita said to do it that was so I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna View Post
    Do You Push A CSM OR Pull it?

    I don't see how you could get kickback on a csm
    but I'd rather be pulling one if I got a kickback
    Just to clarify here, are talking about a Chainsaw mill here seeing that you're in the Small Timber Milling section. If so push
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    CSM = Chain saw mill?
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Some chain saw mills are pull by manual or winch.
    The one I have is a push mill.
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    I'm a pusher, if I ever get around to putting a lil' whing on I'll change to a puller.
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    If I put the log on the right slope and the chain is sharp I do neither - the CSM more or less falls through on its own. See this post.

    Kick back happens when the the chain in the top quadrant of the bar/chain tip comes into contact with something causing the CS to flick backwards on itself. In most chainsaw mills (but espcially the bill this part is not able to touch anything so kickback is very very unlikely AND if you are using a central push/hold handle with a straight arm the degree of leverage over a conventional saw is inherently safer.

    Whatever the case its best to treat chainsaws like the relationship between dogs and babies - ie not leave anything to chance.

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    i enjoy a good pull

    i have an alaskan mill and find it musch easyer to pull than push it.
    normaly no pushing is needed but a few weeks back i cut up a 28" spottygum and when pushing i end up with a numb hand for a couple of days. but if i sat on the log infront of the mill and pulled it i could go all day without stoping for brakes and i was out of the fumes and dust to.

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    Default Crikey...

    Careful 'bout sitting on that log in front of the mill Boyo, or your pulling days could be over...
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    quote=weisyboy;580104]i enjoy a good pull

    i have an alaskan mill and find it musch easyer to pull than push it.
    normaly no pushing is needed but a few weeks back i cut up a 28" spottygum and when pushing i end up with a numb hand for a couple of days. but if i sat on the log infront of the mill and pulled it i could go all day without stoping for brakes and i was out of the fumes and dust to.[/quote]
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    what the hell could happen to me sitting on the log infront of the mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
    what the hell could happen to me sitting on the log infront of the mill.
    You could fall off the log - - it's as easy as.....
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    it i fall off the log i have just as mutch chance of triping over wile pushing it. and id rathe be on the ground infront of the saw with 12" of wood between me and it. than lying behind it inline with the cick back.

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    Default push or pull

    I was at the Canberra wood show. The 'professional' there was pushing his mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
    it i fall off the log i have just as mutch chance of triping over wile pushing it. and id rathe be on the ground infront of the saw with 12" of wood between me and it. than lying behind it inline with the cick back.
    If the top quadrant of the bar nose cannot come into contact with anything (as per CS mills with a nose grip or nose guard) then you shouldn't get any kickback. If you don't have nose grip or guard then this is another reason to get one.

    When I can I like to lift the log off the ground to get the mill up to my height so I'm not bending over. Logs perched above the ground have several safety issues including rolling. While the logs are well chocked and the chances of rolling are very small - if it does, it will be easier to get out of the way if I am already on the ground.

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