Thread: quatersawing on a lucas?

yer i know it fell ove in teh storm and he wants me to pay him to remove it.

the bottom 10m looks as thow its full of white ants anyhow. and as for wheather the blue stains got in yet or no

i told him i dock it up and see what its like and he said that i had to buy it before i cut it at all. i told hiom to go jump in the creek.

im docking it up on munday.

there is about 9-10 cube in the one log si i might offer him $200 if its all good timber.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

yer i know it fell ove in teh storm and he wants me to pay him to remove it.

the bottom 10m looks as thow its full of white ants anyhow. and as for wheather the blue stains got in yet or no

i told him i dock it up and see what its like and he said that i had to buy it before i cut it at all. i told hiom to go jump in the creek.

im docking it up on munday.

there is about 9-10 cube in the one log si i might offer him $200 if its all good timber.

Following Cyclone Larry, March 20th, 2006 anyone who had C/saw and was willing to clear up trees etc could have as much as they could take (I've still got stuff to do from that "Blow") at Japoon.

And.......

Anyone that became obstructionist to that end, clearing, either with saw or tree copped a stern talking to from the likes of Me, QPS, QFRS, SES, and anyone that was asking for money to have trees cut or milled was explained the ins and outs of a few choice emergency service laws.

It was seen in a concilatory light, anybody offereing to cut or mill the huge volume of trees that were downed at there own cost.

In fact if money was asked for and the tree was on private land and not over a house or car, the crews just moved on to the next one and when all done, came back, the tone was different then.

Shayne

unfortunately if i leave this it will be full of blue stain and useless.

i hate paying for timber but hoop this size dosent come up round here that often.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

unfortunately if i leave this it will be full of blue stain and useless.

i hate paying for timber but hoop this size dosent come up round here that often.

I see you problem and the rock and the hard place are getting close together.

Shayne

tell me about it.

either i pay for it or it rots in there padock.

I'd let it rot, it is a two way street, for the service of you removing the log for him, you are getting the timber
ps the stain wont start untill the tree is dead ie; cut from the butt or leaves dead, for wind blown over trees you have a fair bit of time up your sleeve
regards inter

it broke of the stump.

ill dock it up tomorrow and see if its any good.

hes in NZ at the moment anyhow.

I hate to tell you kind people but it is his tree and if he want money for it he's quite entitled to ask for it.

It is your option whether you pay it or not.

he might rather see it rot then give it away, some people are like that.

Sorry about the logical outlook.

Cheers

No need the be apologetic for expressing your opinion David, we 've all got them

Admittedly if the fella wants money for the log - that is up to him, the choice is accept it or move on

Originally Posted by weisyboy

i told him i dock it up and see what its like and he said that i had to buy it before i cut it at all. i told hiom to go jump in the creek.

Remember that sometimes politeness, a professional attitude and a carton of beer can buy far more that the equivalent money.

Yeah Beer is good currency quite often maybe even better than USD

Originally Posted by weisyboy

i know what quatersawing is and how to do it on a static mill but i was wondering if any of the lucas owners had found a good way to do it.

this is the best my brain can come up with at teh moment and even than you only get 4 quater sdawn boards and the rest are neiter one nor the other.

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Carl

Your first picture is the way quarter sawn timber was produced 100 years ago when people used to hand split logs and then adze them into planks. I don't think anyone actually sawed a log that way - it would require a very elaborate and precise jig.

Back in the days when I was involved with a couple of very large sawmills we produced quartersawn timber by two methods:

• grading for quartersawn. Sawer maximised output volume and grader sorted out QS - we got 15% price premium for some species.
• sawing for quartersawn - all QS, but more machine time than above.

To cut for quartersawn we did the following:

• quartered the log on the primary breakdown saw (96 or 108 inch band saw).
• ran quarter log through horizontal band saw. This produced a quarter sawn rough edged flitch.
• rolled that quarter log onto other face and ran it through same horizontal band saw. Another QS flitch slightly narrower than first.
• rolled it back onto original face and repeated.
• Result was 100% quartersawn output.

I have no experience with the Lucas and don't know whether it can cut like this.

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Cheers

Graeme

If you broke a log down with a chainsaw into quarters, then used a part sawn log as a 'bench' you could run successive vertical cuts using the above method, flipping each quarter to get subsequent smaller boards from it until you had almost nothing left. but the limit would be a log no bigger than around 400mm, so each quarter is no bigger than 200x200mm. Also each QS board would mean a longitudinal flipping of the quarter